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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] KDF OS12.2 Apper
From:       Raymond Wooninck <tittiatcoke () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-02-02 7:23:42
Message-ID: 20304445.yEYpUxsj0Y () hqvmt4xx20 ! eur ! cchbc ! com
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Dear Carl,

On Friday 01 February 2013 06:32:46 Carl Fletcher wrote:
> Using KDF in 12.2 for kde4.10RC3
> My settings for Apper were:
> Check for distribution Upgrades: Never
> Check for Updates: Never
> 
> After the latest update on KDE Apper changes all those settings.

A new configuration file was introduced with the latest version of Apper. On a 
system level the old one was replaced, but of course the one installed in the 
user home directory remained. The new configuration file is called apper instead 
of apperrc. Both files are in the $HOME/.kde4/share/config directory

> But now, even if I change them back to NEVER, apper continues to check and
> notify.

I have set apper to exactly the same setting and even after a reboot I can not 
reproduce this. Apper remains silent and does not check for possible updates. 
 
> Apper still doesn't work either. It's currently offering me a 4.8.5 stable
> update for kde! How stupid is that! Same old story.

As also discussed on IRC yesterday, the reason for this is that an updates 
provided for 12.2, will always be based on the KDE supplied with 12.2.  As you 
are running 12.2, an update provided for 12.2 could have the requirement for 
KDE 4.8.5. 

With this we have to keep in mind for what Apper would be used. The target of 
apper is not to replace zypper or YaST software management. It should just be 
an applet that informs the user for possible updates which can then be 
installed.  

Zypper or YaST might not at all show the possible update (as that it has 
conflicting dependencies; downgrade of KDE) and we could also ask ourselves if 
that is correct ?  Maybe this is an important update that is vital for the 
user.  So both have their pro's and con's.  

We already took the decision in the past that we will provide the minor 
release updates of KDE through the standard maintainance channel, so that even 
less users would require additional repositories to stay up-to-date. All to 
make it easier and safer for the user. This means that an user doesn't need to 
have the KDE:Release:410 repository added to zypper, as that the 4.10.x 
releases will be provided through the standard 12.3 Update repository. 
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