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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/pull/14
From:       Christian Trippe <ctrippe () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2012-10-28 18:42:21
Message-ID: 1631509.HykDrf1T0G () asterix ! site
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Am Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012, 12:25:23 schrieb Cristian Morales Vega:
> On 27 October 2012 10:58, Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > Fredag den 26. oktober 2012 18:37:36 skrev Cristian Morales Vega:
> >> **OPENSUSE (KDE Team)** already decided to drop the zypp backend and
> >> use PackageKit:
> >> http://gitorious.org/opensuse/kupdateapplet/commit/fd3e44863e3518cc3df8e8
> >> 500 07d07602cb70161 And for 11.4 **OPENSUSE (KDE Team)** decide to drop
> >> it completely and leave only kpackagekit.
> > 
> > Tgoettlicher is not the KDE team. Kupdateapplet was maintained by
> > YaST/zypp
> 
> It's a member. Or so says the wiki http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_team.
> > guys, YaST/zypp guys decided for mysterious reasons to prefer the PK
> > backend over the zypp-backend, and subsquently YaST/zypp guys decided to
> > drop kupdateapplet.
> 
> Reasons stop being "mysterious" once you ask what the reasons are.
> From your explanations and the wiki content this is what I am understanding:
> 
> - One openSUSE KDE member decided to drop direct zypp support from the
> update applet against the will of the rest of the team
> - Nobody decided to ask him why
> - Nobody else from the openSUSE KDE team decided to start maintaining
> an update applet that is 99% KDE, ZYpp-agnostic, open source code with
> just a few calls to the zypper and zypp-refresh commands through
> wrappers.
> - Given the impossibility of asking a question to one of your own
> members, or maintaining a piece of open source KDE code that has kept
> working without maintainership for nearly two years, you were left
> with no other option but use KPackagekit/Apper as update applet.
> 
> Ignore the wiki, let's suppose Thomas is not a openSUSE KDE team
> member... It still makes no sense.
> 
> I can't really believe that story!! It makes a lot more sense to think
> that the openSUSE KDE Team just decided to start using PackageKit. And
> if they/you want to use it for the updater, it only makes sense that
> they/you also want to use it for local RPM installations.

No apper (or kpackagekit back then) was only used because kupdateapplet was 
dropped, if I remember correctly.

> 
> Or, why a **one line fix** has been a "long standing bug"? Again, it
> makes more sense to think that nobody has changed it during this
> "long" time because it wasn't considered a bug and instead the
> openSUSE KDE team actually wanted it to be handled by Apper. Or is the
> team in such a need of manpower/new members?

IMHO yes.
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