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List:       struts-user
Subject:    RE: wishlist
From:       "Joseph Barefoot" <josephb () hereuare ! com>
Date:       2002-06-06 22:57:13
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Keep preaching man.  The choir is here to back you up. :)

peace,
Joe Barefoot

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: wishlist
>
>
> LOL....I know....I dreaming......but one day mind you.......;)
>
> I cannot tell you how many hours of my life have been wasted
> coding the same
> SH#T over and over again in ASP and COM.  From 1997 to 2000ish I thought I
> was the ASP/COM KING!!!!!  No doubt this was also at the height
> on the .bomb
> era (I mean .com)
>
> Then I started learning this cool thing called “Java Web Application
> Development with Struts” (I believe that’s also a book title
> somewhere right
> Ted??? ;)
>
> I remember (this happened a few times) picking up the phone and ordering
> dinner for a few other developers and myself from Dominoes.  We
> were working
> on a getting a nice new enhancement out the door by that week.  Only one
> problem, Dominoes had closed for the night, it was 3 AM!!!
>
> Sometime early last year, I sat down and rewrote an application that I had
> done for a client (originally in ASP).  I duplicated the
> functionality, but
> wrote it in Java (w/Struts no doubt).
>
>                        ASP      Struts
> Lines of code         1257       148
> *includes html, css, but not comments
>
> Features that were not in the ASP version:
> *logging
> *connection pooling
>
> That was with a pre 1.0 version when I was still working with Chuck at
> NetVendor.  I’m sure it could have been fewer lines, but I was new to this
> whole Struts business thing :-)
> This doesn’t even show the time savings by using tiles and the validator.
> Anyway, this is only one of several reasons why I put on my signature line
> “Struts Evangelist”.
>
>
> Anyway, I hope to complete my wish list be the end of the week.  If anyone
> cares to add to the list, I’ll add a section on there for you.
>
> I’m not sure how this (wishes/plans) all correlates to what the other
> developers/committers are doing with proposals and such.  One thing I’ve
> noticed is that the pages on the struts site are not consistent as far as
> layout and links.
>
> Anyone else notice this too???
>
> I had planned to re-write the struts-example that ships with the
> binary and
> source dist, but I’ve seen evidence that I’m not the first to tackle this.
> I hate doing doing duplicate work (that’s why I’m here) so if anyone else
> (Ted, Vic, James, anyone) is going to do this, please tell me so
> I can focus
> on something else.
>
> Ted, Vic, and Bryan are you doing anything with the struts site on
> sourceforge?
> I had been looking around last month for a place to post samples and docs,
> then I found your site.  I left a msg in public forums, but there’s no
> activity.  Would care to add me as a member/developer?  I’d like
> to offer my
> web hosting services to any of your projects.  It’s a DSL with static IP.
> Not the most robust bandwidth I know, but hey, its free!!!  Well,
> I have to
> pay for the line, but that’s minimal compared to what I get in return.
>
>
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
> ICQ: 27651409
> AOLIM: jmitchtx (and NO I don’t use AOL;)
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin.Bedell@sunlife.com [mailto:Kevin.Bedell@sunlife.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:48 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: wishlist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gee -
> >
> > If I didn't know better, I'd say James has gotten a pretty good start on
> > the Struts 2.0 requierments document -
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "James Mitchell" <jmitchtx@telocity.com> on 06/06/2002 02:32:44 PM
> >
> > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >       <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >
> > To:   "Thigpen, David" <DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com>
> > cc:   "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org> (bcc:
> >       Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife)
> > Subject:  RE: wishlist
> >
> >
> > I'm only 1/3 done with those notes/wishes.....stay tuned.
> >
> >
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
> > ICQ: 27651409
> > AOLIM: jmitchtx (and NO I don't use AOL;)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thigpen, David [mailto:DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:26 AM
> > > To: jmitchtx@telocity.com
> > > Subject:
> > >
> > >
> > > WOW...very ambitious; as an ultra newbie Struts user, I
> > > especially like the idea of examples for ALL core tags.  Bless you ;-)
> > >
> > > DT
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:23 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> > >
> > >
> > > LOL....ok
> > >
> > > here's my notes
> > >
> > > http://www.open-tools.org/wishlist.jsp
> > >
> > > I've been editing/adding for a few hours now, check back every so
> > > often, it'
> > > s getting bigger as the day goes on.
> > >
> > >
> > > James Mitchell
> > > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > > http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Thigpen, David [mailto:DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > waiting anxiously ;-)
> > > >
> > > > timeframe?
> > > >
> > > > DT
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > > To: Brian Holzer
> > > > Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok, better yet, let me drop it on my server.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the url for those interested.
> > > > Stay tuned though, the struts-example is about to get
> > > > better......trust me.
> > > >
> > > > http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org/struts-example-jsp-mod.zip
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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