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List:       struts-user
Subject:    RE: wishlist
From:       "James Mitchell" <jmitchtx () telocity ! com>
Date:       2002-06-06 22:39:07
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LOL....I know....I dreaming......but one day mind you.......;)

I cannot tell you how many hours of my life have been wasted coding the same
SH#T over and over again in ASP and COM.  From 1997 to 2000ish I thought I
was the ASP/COM KING!!!!!  No doubt this was also at the height on the .bomb
era (I mean .com)

Then I started learning this cool thing called “Java Web Application
Development with Struts” (I believe that’s also a book title somewhere right
Ted??? ;)

I remember (this happened a few times) picking up the phone and ordering
dinner for a few other developers and myself from Dominoes.  We were working
on a getting a nice new enhancement out the door by that week.  Only one
problem, Dominoes had closed for the night, it was 3 AM!!!

Sometime early last year, I sat down and rewrote an application that I had
done for a client (originally in ASP).  I duplicated the functionality, but
wrote it in Java (w/Struts no doubt).

                       ASP      Struts
Lines of code         1257       148
*includes html, css, but not comments

Features that were not in the ASP version:
*logging
*connection pooling

That was with a pre 1.0 version when I was still working with Chuck at
NetVendor.  I’m sure it could have been fewer lines, but I was new to this
whole Struts business thing :-)
This doesn’t even show the time savings by using tiles and the validator.
Anyway, this is only one of several reasons why I put on my signature line
“Struts Evangelist”.


Anyway, I hope to complete my wish list be the end of the week.  If anyone
cares to add to the list, I’ll add a section on there for you.

I’m not sure how this (wishes/plans) all correlates to what the other
developers/committers are doing with proposals and such.  One thing I’ve
noticed is that the pages on the struts site are not consistent as far as
layout and links.

Anyone else notice this too???

I had planned to re-write the struts-example that ships with the binary and
source dist, but I’ve seen evidence that I’m not the first to tackle this.
I hate doing doing duplicate work (that’s why I’m here) so if anyone else
(Ted, Vic, James, anyone) is going to do this, please tell me so I can focus
on something else.

Ted, Vic, and Bryan are you doing anything with the struts site on
sourceforge?
I had been looking around last month for a place to post samples and docs,
then I found your site.  I left a msg in public forums, but there’s no
activity.  Would care to add me as a member/developer?  I’d like to offer my
web hosting services to any of your projects.  It’s a DSL with static IP.
Not the most robust bandwidth I know, but hey, its free!!!  Well, I have to
pay for the line, but that’s minimal compared to what I get in return.


James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
ICQ: 27651409
AOLIM: jmitchtx (and NO I don’t use AOL;)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin.Bedell@sunlife.com [mailto:Kevin.Bedell@sunlife.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: wishlist
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>
> Gee -
>
> If I didn't know better, I'd say James has gotten a pretty good start on
> the Struts 2.0 requierments document -
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> "James Mitchell" <jmitchtx@telocity.com> on 06/06/2002 02:32:44 PM
>
> Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
>       <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>
> To:   "Thigpen, David" <DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com>
> cc:   "Struts Users Mailing List" <struts-user@jakarta.apache.org> (bcc:
>       Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife)
> Subject:  RE: wishlist
>
>
> I'm only 1/3 done with those notes/wishes.....stay tuned.
>
>
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
> ICQ: 27651409
> AOLIM: jmitchtx (and NO I don't use AOL;)
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thigpen, David [mailto:DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:26 AM
> > To: jmitchtx@telocity.com
> > Subject:
> >
> >
> > WOW...very ambitious; as an ultra newbie Struts user, I
> > especially like the idea of examples for ALL core tags.  Bless you ;-)
> >
> > DT
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:23 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> >
> >
> > LOL....ok
> >
> > here's my notes
> >
> > http://www.open-tools.org/wishlist.jsp
> >
> > I've been editing/adding for a few hours now, check back every so
> > often, it'
> > s getting bigger as the day goes on.
> >
> >
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> > Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> > http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thigpen, David [mailto:DThigpen@idacorpenergy.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:58 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> > >
> > >
> > > waiting anxiously ;-)
> > >
> > > timeframe?
> > >
> > > DT
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@telocity.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > To: Brian Holzer
> > > Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: RE: Handling check for logged-inness using a tag?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, better yet, let me drop it on my server.
> > >
> > > Here's the url for those interested.
> > > Stay tuned though, the struts-example is about to get
> > > better......trust me.
> > >
> > > http://struts-atlanta.open-tools.org/struts-example-jsp-mod.zip
> > >
> >
> >
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