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Subject:    Re: [Secure Desktops] "Secure" OS meeting?
From:       Joanna Rutkowska <joanna () invisiblethingslab ! com>
Date:       2016-10-28 17:12:50
Message-ID: 20161028171250.GA7774 () work-mutt
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On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 03:57:31PM +0200, intrigeri wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> The idea of bringing (at least) Qubes OS, Subgraph OS and Tails people
> together for a few days has been floating around since it was
> suggested last year at IFF. A few of us discussed it in person last
> week again, and since then I've talked to Gunner (Aspiration Tech)
> about logistics.
> 
> As I see it, such an event could be a great opportunity to:
> 
>  * Get to know each other better, which can smooth
>    future collaboration.
>  * Share about the problems we face (both technical and organizational
>    ones).
>  * Share our plans for the future; in particular how much we
>    can/should be complementary; what will all this look like 5 years
>    from now? For example: What will be Qubes OS' target user base in
>    2-5 years from now? How best to serve the current Tails' user base?
>    How best to serve those who cannot switch to Qubes-Whonix, e.g.
>    due to hardware requirements?
>  * Discuss how to better collaborate, and to actually hack together on
>    sharing code / integrating some of our tools and projects with
>    each other.
>  * Invite a few people from upstreams and related projects, such as
>    Debian, GNOME and devops / automated testing people, who can
>    provide useful input… and be excited by the great work we're doing.
> 
> Is there interest in creating such an event and making it great?
> I suggest we discuss this with our own teams and report back here.
> 
> Gunner is up to handle the logistics, assuming we get OTF funding for
> the event. His team would take care of organizing (sponsored) travel,
> meeting location and accommodation, plus they would help us organize
> the content of the event. Their preferred locations would be
> Amsterdam, Barcelona and Berlin.
> 
> When we discussed this last week, one question raised was whether we
> should have this event a) shortly before/after another one that some
> of us want to attend anyway (e.g. Tor dev meeting), in order to lower
> the amount of times we travel; or b) at a different time, to lower the
> duration of our individual trips. I personally have no strong
> preference. Have you any?
> 
> Regarding "when": would March-May 2017 be good for you?
> 
> Regarding the duration & format: Gunner & I thought that 2 days of
> meeting (hosted by himself) followed by 2-3 days of hacking would be
> good. Thoughts?
> 

Hi intrigeri,

I just would like to say I think this is a very good idea, IMHO :)

I suggest the meeting should be an invite-only gathering, in order to minimize
distractions.

Cheers,
joanna.
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