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List:       quanta-devel
Subject:    Re: [quanta-devel] drag and drop in structure tree
From:       Eric Laffoon <sequitur () easystreet ! com>
Date:       2005-08-24 8:26:49
Message-ID: 200508240126.49996.sequitur () easystreet ! com
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On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:29 pm, Jens Herden wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > > Try to move or copy '<strong>text</strong>' and you will get
> > > '<strong>text</strong></strong>'
> > >
> > > Sometimes it accepts a drop sometimes not, no idea why.
> >
> > On mouse move event, it is tested if the child node can belong to the
> > parent but sometimes the results are diferent for the same combination. I
> > don't know why, it seems drag and drop related.
>
> This does not explain why I get the closing tag twice.
> And I hate tools that prevent me from doing something. Quanta should never,
> never prevent a user from doing something because it thinks it is not
> correct. There is no such thing like correctness when a user manipulates a
> document. A smart tool does support me in finding errors but never
> prohibits me to do them. The user is the king at the computer not Quanta!

Wow! You don't see a rant like that from Jens every day. I happen to agree 
BTW. ;-) Unfortunately intelligence here can be tricky, but shouldn't be ugly 
and presumptuous. 
>
> > > Sometimes it accepts a drop, opens the menu to ask what to do but does
> > > nothing. If I perform the same again it is working.
> > >
> > > Sometimes Quanta will eat up all memory and CPU resources.
> > >
> > > I do not want to look into this deeper but someone should do it before
> > > we release Quanta.
> >
> > It is very dificult or nearly impossible to have stable features
> > regarding node manipulation with this code base. Maybe we should simply
> > disable drag and drop.
>
> If we can not fix it we should disable it. And with fix I mean a reliable
> and reproduceable behaviour and not a lottery like let's see if drag and
> drop works today :-)
>
> Jens
Agreed. Personally I like D&D, but it goes without saying I don't like lottery 
behavior. At least that isn't one of the mainstream features we've chosen to 
emulate. ;-)

Eric
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