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Subject: Re: [Quanta] (X)HTML5
From: Milian Wolff <mail () milianw ! de>
Date: 2010-07-12 12:50:07
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On Monday, 12. July 2010 11:51:49 to@2nova.net wrote:
> Milian Wolff
> I like your approach, really, very much, however:
>
> (X)HTML5
> 1. (X)HTML5 - or HTML5 - has been appointed by W3C as the
> successor of XHTML (2.0) for all development further on.
> Forget about obsolete HTML and replace it by HTML5
> tags/elements/attributes.
>
> Nowadays all browsers support these new elements, more or
> less, whith the exception of IE8. But soon coming IE9 will
> support html5 by 100%. Quanta+4 should be looking forward,
> not backward, and implement the new directions pointed out
> by W3C.
>
> There is nothing wrong to get a version of XHTML/XML plugin,
> it will of course be useful, but (X)HTML5 is the future.
> Maybe define it (X)HTML5/XML plugin, or - similarly to your
> quote - with HTML5 (but not HTML or SGML) support? Quanta+4
> must of course support it, view
> http://w3schools.com/html5/default.asp
Yes, I second that. I'll make sure that working on HTML5 will work in Quanta
4. But I won't sacrifce backwards compatibility too much, since as Niko
pointed out, IE 6 & 7 is sadly still popular...
> CSS(3)
> 2. It is neither wrong to support CSS3! We are already using
> many of these wonderful new tools, view
> http://w3schools.com/w3c/w3c_css.asp
> http://www.css3.info/
Yeah, good point - should be added.
> Check also that new Quanta css editor/plugin give you lower
> case attributes according to XHTML/(X)HTML5. Now it gives
> you obsolete UPPERCASE, picking colors, for instance.
Can you elaborate on that? For me the CSS plugin always gives me lowercase
attributes and named colors. #FFF is equal to #fff though and totally depends
on the users preference.
> Indentation: Now I use XML Style, tried also Normal, but it
> gives me problems in the CSS editor, after copy/cut and
> pasting. To get back original indentation you must give an
> Undo ctrl+z after Paste ctrl+v. Annoying. Or should I
> change indentation style in editor, but does not seem to
> change anything in old Quanta+?
XML style is definitely a really bad choice for working on _CSS_ - don't do
that. Either use Normal or better yet, write a indent script for CSS. It's
quite easy, just plain JavaScript.
See: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdesdk/kate/advanced-editing-tools-
scripting.html
If you want to work on that, I can show you how to get started and how to
write unit tests for the indentation scripts. (Note: the latter is really
easy).
> UTF8
> 3. Check that the editor supports typing all characters and
> in all languages. Only utf8 supports all characters and must
> be default encoding. We designers wish to be able to type
> and read multilingual body texts with all characters
> readable.
>
> Todays Quanta+ force you to insert text from other editors,
> if you like to read what you typed. Compare this mix of
> Russian and Swedish:
>
> a) "Дорогая моя! Även med våra åäö ..."
>
> b) "Дорогая
> моя! Även med våra
> åäö ..."
> from old Quanta+.
>
> Which one do you prefer, if read and edit your typing of
> body text?
You are apparently not aware of the setting in Quanta 3 that disables the
automatic transliteration to the UTF8 entities. Simply turn it off and it
should work.
Kate supports a multitude of encodings and in the development for KDE 4.5,
Christoph (Kate maintainer) spent a long time to fix a lot of outstanding
issues in that regard. Meaning: This should just work™.
> Leif Hjerpe, web designer (not [yet alas] developer)
> Using Quanta+3.5.10 (OpenSuse release) in KDE-4.3.5 (today
> crippled, but still usable). Location Sweden
You should update to newest KDE asap ;-)
Bye
--
Milian Wolff
mail@milianw.de
http://milianw.de
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