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Subject:    Re: [Quanta] Project Preview Confusion
From:       Børge_Holen <borge () arivene ! net>
Date:       2006-09-26 17:13:43
Message-ID: 200609261913.44244.borge () arivene ! net
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On Tuesday 26 September 2006 02:49, you wrote:
> > You are using and editing files externally instead of having them on
> > local disk. That would be step 2 and 3. You make the project out of files
> > stored on a ftp server.
>
> hi. thanks for your reply to my inquiry. i'm afraid i'm not sure what
> to do with your info.
>
> to clarify my problem:
> every project properties setting i've tried so far, quanta plus will
> open a browser (my preferred method of viewing vs the "internal"
> preview),  if viewing "remote" files it will pull them up in the
> browser-- essentially the same as if you'd type the FTP URL into the
> browser address bar-- for example, as
> ftp://user@ftp.domain.com/public_html/filename.htm

OK... got it... I guess you understand that ftp wont render html nor php at 
all therefore "Save file".
if you however try to use http://host.domain/~user/public_html/file.htm this 
would work. It all depend on yer server wheras this just as well can be 
http://someplace.com/file.htm
I never actually used this "preview" very much, as I rather have all my tabs 
in place and I got the page I'm workin' on in one tab and about ~ 20 sites in 
others ;)


>
> similarly, if working in a project where i've set the project
> parameters to local files, in "preview" Quanta+, instead of reading
> the files as served by Fedora's web server, Apache on
> http://localhost/~username/mywebname , i get something more like
> /home/username/mywebname/filename.php -- (which probably causes the
> browser to ask where i want to save the file)


localhost wont render php at all unless you have php installed.
If this is what you like; install apache & php, and you'll be alright.
This will also lead to "Save file".



>
> aside from the "project properties" itself, are there other settings
> of the IDE which i should verify are set correctly; which might be
> mis-configured, causing this behaviour?

No PHP support.

>
> i'm convinced that i don't understand the Quanta+ Project / that i've
> set something wrong, or i've overlooked something-- because i can use
> the same settings in another IDE Project, Bluefish for example, yet I
> get the expected behaviour-- the files are shown on http -- so the php
> is parsed properly, and i'm able to actually "test" applications as if
> in production.

Not Quantas fault. I do not get the ftp:// in addressbar witch in turn can be 
triggered by settings unfamiliar to me. This option however shows how 
versatile Q is.

>
> thanks again for your help!
>
> On 9/24/06, Børge Holen <borge@arivene.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday 24 September 2006 11:00, Jeffrey Sabarese wrote:
> > > My "technique" of creating a project is as follows:
> > > 1.) File > Open > [ftp location here - select a file to open from
> > > server]. 2.) Project > New Project > and proceed throught the 1-2-3
> > > wizard, where i 3.) select: Protocol: FTP ;
> > > 4.) host : fftp://myftp and the appropriate login info.
> > > 5.) click on the "browse" button for main dir to ensure i'm connected
> > > 6.) FTP folder opens, revealing remote files hierarchy
> > > 7.) choose my desired files for the project, Quanta+ imports them:
> > > i now have a "Project" loaded in the left tool dock.
> > >
> > > from here, if i edit one of these files, by nature of my Project setup,
> > > i have no need to "upload" it because simply clicking the "save" icon
> > > updates the file on the remote server. i can open a browser OUTSIDE of
> > > Quanta+, i can browse the public http location-- from there i see what
> > > you would see-- my updated file at the remote location.
> > >
> > > this is a very efficient, no-nonsense way to do site maintenance. my
> > > confusion centers on the fact that i HAVE TO browse the files by
> > > manually pulling them up in a browser.
> > >
> > > Obviously i'm doing something wrong w/ the Project Setup i've
> > > illustrated above-- because if i click "Preview in external" -- as i
> > > thought i should -- Quanta Plus will open a browser, but it's no good
> > > because that browser is prompting me to enter a password for the FTP
> > > location in its address bar.
> > >
> > > This is no way to preview server side scripting. PHP for example, isn't
> > > parsed when viewing a file over FTP like this-- it needs to be the http
> > > protocol. why then does Quanta Plus want to give me a preview in
> > > browser on the FTP side? -- the most frustrating part about it is that
> > > I can't find any way to modify the options. the closest solution i've
> > > found is to enter http mysite dot com into the project "USE preview
> > > prefix: ___" -- but it doesn't work-- every time i go back to the
> > > project properties, it's been greyed out, and "view in external" brings
> > > up the ftp locations.
> > >
> > > what am i doing wrong? how do i fix this? the strangest thing about it
> > > is that i have actually used Quanta Plus with the previews "working
> > > properly" as i'd expect (with the browser going to the site you would
> > > see-- the http location-- not what i see using  developer access in
> > > FTP). it seems i just doing know how to configure the project.
> >
> > You are using and editing files externally instead of having them on
> > local disk. That would be step 2 and 3. You make the project out of files
> > stored on a ftp server.
> >
> > > sorry for the lengthy text. can someone please help me with this? could
> > > i be missing some component of the kdewebdev package which is causing
> > > this? thank you!
> >
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