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From: Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand () nottingham ! ac ! uk>
Date: 2020-07-27 11:53:32
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Hi Pyrou,
Thank you for sharing these very useful resources. This is very helpful for me to \
learn more on this topic. I will read the books and links that you kindly shared. I \
will then email you to discuss more on the article and to get your inputs. I will \
greatly appreciate your expertise and inputs for the article.
The Group on Earth Observations (GEO) Indigenous Peoples’ Community of Practice might \
also be of interest. The GEO Indigenous Peoples’ Community of Practice promotes \
knowledge sharing to improve Indigenous peoples’ access and inclusion in the \
development of geospatial tools for sustainable natural resource management. Details \
at https://geoipcop.org<https://geoipcop.org/>
I have also now joined the RDA Indigenous data sovereignty WG so I can learn more. \
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Suchith
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From: Pyrou Chung <pchung@ewmi-odi.org>
Sent: 27 July 2020 10:14
To: Suchith Anand <ezasa7@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk>
Cc: geoforall@lists.osgeo.org <geoforall@lists.osgeo.org>; OSGeo Discussions \
<discuss@lists.osgeo.org>; Carroll, Stephanie Russo - (stephaniecarroll) \
<stephaniecarroll@arizona.edu>; Maui Hudson \
<maui.hudson@waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [Geo4All] Ethical issues of Digital Feudalism affecting Indigeneous \
communities
Hi Suchith,
I think you should start by connecting with the Global Indigenous Data Alliance which \
lists some resources for reference. They published the CARE \
principles<https://www.gida-global.org/care> which outline some ethical principles \
about safeguarding Indigenous data. A couple of books: 1. Indigenous Data \
Sovereignty: Towards an \
Agenda<https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d3799de845604000199cd24/t/5d6f8aae27641800017a9473/1567591089094/Indigenous+Data+Sovereignty+Book.pdf> \
and 2. Traditional Ecological Knowledge: Learning from Indigenous Practices for \
Environmental Sustainability.
There's also an IDSolv RDA group: \
https://www.rd-alliance.org/groups/international-indigenous-data-sovereignty-ig
There is a real conflict with Digital Feudalism and Indigenous peoples concepts of \
land and territory. I've battled with this within our work in the Mekong region and \
it's challenging to find a middle ground. Please touch base to discuss this further \
if you would like, I'd be interested to learn more about the approach you intend to \
take with the article.
Regards,
Pyrou
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:59 AM Suchith Anand \
<Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am working on an article for EthicalGEO [1] on Ethics of Digital Feudalism in \
Location Data .There are many ethical questions that arise when Digital Feudalism, \
Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Location Data intersect [2]. Details at
https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/geospatial-ig/post/ethics-digital-feudalism-gis
I came across an article on Indigenous Data Sovereignty at
https://medium.com/technology-solidarity/indigenous-data-sovereignty-in-southeast-asia-with-pyrou-chung-b462db048cfe
I am interested to learn more on Ethical issues of Digital Feudalism affecting \
Indigeneous communities. There are approximately 476 million Indigenous Peoples \
worldwide, in over 90 countries. Although they make up over 6 percent of the global \
population, they account for about 15 percent of the extreme poor. They safeguard 80 \
percent of the world’s remaining biodiversity. The land on which they live and the \
natural resources on which they depend are inextricably linked to their identities, \
cultures, livelihoods, as well as their physical and spiritual well-being. I respect \
the kindness, resilience, dignity and strength of indigenous peoples around the \
world.
As Indigeneous communities play a key role as guardians of forests and biodiversity , \
are there any studies or any articles on the impact of AI based GIS/location \
platforms for Indigeneous communities?
As some big GIS cloud platform companies/vendors also have verticals in the mining \
industry, oil & gas etc, are there any ethical guidelines so that AI tools and \
insights developed in forest monitoring, conservation, biodiversity projects by AI \
based platforms are not used by the platform vendors for mining projects in forests \
in the future?
How will Digital Feudalism affect the economically poor? Are there any ethical \
guidelines to protect the rights of Indigeneous communities? Are there any studies \
or any articles on the impact of AI based GIS/location platforms for Indigeneous \
communities? If so, please email me the publication details by 10th August 2020 so I \
can learn more and reference them in my article. Thanks.
Best wishes,
Suchith
[1] https://ethicalgeo.org
[2] https://www.godan.info/news/ethical-dimensions-digital-feudalism-agriculture
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#454545"> <span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The Group on Earth \
Observations (GEO) Indigenous Peoples’ Community of Practice might also be of \
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joined the RDA Indigenous data sovereignty WG so I can learn more. \
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style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Pyrou Chung <pchung@ewmi-odi.org><br> \
<b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2020 10:14<br> <b>To:</b> Suchith Anand \
<ezasa7@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk><br> <b>Cc:</b> geoforall@lists.osgeo.org \
<geoforall@lists.osgeo.org>; OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>; \
Carroll, Stephanie Russo - (stephaniecarroll) <stephaniecarroll@arizona.edu>; \
Maui Hudson <maui.hudson@waikato.ac.nz><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] \
Ethical issues of Digital Feudalism affecting Indigeneous communities</font> \
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Suchith,
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<div>I think you should start by connecting with the Global Indigenous Data \
Alliance which lists some resources for reference. They published the <a \
href="https://www.gida-global.org/care">CARE principles</a> which outline some \
ethical principles about safeguarding Indigenous data. A couple of books: 1. <a \
href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d3799de845604000199cd24/t/5d6f8aae27641800017a9473/1567591089094/Indigenous+Data+Sovereignty+Book.pdf">
Indigenous Data Sovereignty: Towards an Agenda</a> and 2. Traditional Ecological \
Knowledge: Learning from Indigenous Practices for Environmental \
Sustainability. </div> <div><br>
</div>
<div>There's also an IDSolv RDA group: <a \
href="https://www.rd-alliance.org/groups/international-indigenous-data-sovereignty-ig" \
>https://www.rd-alliance.org/groups/international-indigenous-data-sovereignty-ig</a></div>
>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is a real conflict with Digital Feudalism and Indigenous peoples concepts \
of land and territory. I've battled with this within our work in the Mekong region \
and it's challenging to find a middle ground. Please touch base to discuss this \
further if you would like, I'd be interested to learn more about \
the approach you intend to take with the article. </div> <div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,<br>
Pyrou</div>
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Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); \
font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:11pt; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal">Dear colleagues,</span><br> </p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); min-height:14px"> <br>
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<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I am \
working on an article for EthicalGEO [1] on Ethics of Digital Feudalism in Location \
Data </span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">.</span><span \
style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">There are many ethical questions</span><span \
style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">that arise when</span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">Digital Feudalism, </span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">Artificial Intelligence</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); \
font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-size:11pt; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal"> (</span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">AI</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; font-size:11pt; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal">)</span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; \
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">and </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; \
font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Location Data </span></span><span \
style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">intersect \
[2].</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; \
font-size:11pt; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal"> </span><span \
style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal; font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Details \
at </span></p> <p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; \
font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(228,175,10)"> <span \
style="text-decoration:underline"><a \
href="https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/geospatial-ig/post/ethics-digital-feudalism-gis" \
target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">https://www.rd-alliance.org/group/geospatial-ig/post/ethics-digital-feudalism-gis</span><span \
style="text-decoration:underline"></span></a></span></p> <p style="margin:0px; \
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; \
line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); \
min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I \
came across an article on Indigenous Data Sovereignty at</span></p> <p \
style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; \
font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; \
color:rgb(228,175,10)"> <span style="text-decoration:underline"><a \
href="https://medium.com/technology-solidarity/indigenous-data-sovereignty-in-southeast-asia-with-pyrou-chung-b462db048cfe" \
target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">https://medium.com/technology-solidarity/indigenous-data-sovereignty-in-southeast-asia-with-pyrou-chung-b462db048cfe</span><span \
style="text-decoration:underline"></span></a></span></p> <p style="margin:0px; \
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; \
line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); \
min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">I am \
interested to learn more on Ethical issues of Digital Feudalism</span><span \
style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">affecting Indigeneous communities. There are approximately \
476 million Indigenous Peoples worldwide, in over 90 countries. Although they make up \
over 6 percent of the global population, they account for about 15 percent of the \
extreme poor. They safeguard 80 percent of the world’s remaining biodiversity. \
The land on which they live and the natural resources on which they depend are \
inextricably linked to their identities, cultures, livelihoods, as well as their \
physical and spiritual well-being. I respect the kindness, resilience, dignity and \
strength of indigenous peoples around the world.</span></p> <p style="margin:0px; \
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; \
line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); \
min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">As \
Indigeneous communities play a key role as guardians of forests and biodiversity , \
are there any studies or any articles on the impact of AI based GIS/location \
platforms for Indigeneous communities? </span></p> <p style="margin:0px; \
font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; \
line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); \
min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">As \
some big GIS cloud platform companies/vendors also have verticals in the mining \
industry, oil & gas</span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> \
</span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">etc, are there any ethical \
guidelines so that AI tools and insights developed in forest monitoring, \
conservation, biodiversity projects by AI based platforms are not used by the \
platform vendors for mining projects</span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">in \
forests in the future?</span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></p> <p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; \
font-variant-caps:normal; font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; \
font-family:"Helvetica Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">How \
will Digital Feudalism affect the economically poor? Are there any ethical guidelines \
to protect the rights of Indigeneous communities? </span><span style="font-size:11pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Are \
there any studies or any articles on the impact of AI based GIS/location platforms \
for Indigeneous communities? If so, please email me the publication details by 10th \
August 2020 so I can learn more and reference them in my article. \
Thanks.</span></p> <p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69); min-height:14px"> <br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
font-stretch:normal; font-size:12px; line-height:normal; font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue"; color:rgb(69,69,69)"> <span style="font-size:11pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best \
wishes,</span></p> <p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; \
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color:rgb(0,0,0)">Suchith</span></p> <p style="margin:0px; font-style:normal; \
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