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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: What is pulling in *-lang packages?
From:       Patrick Shanahan <paka () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2024-04-19 22:58:56
Message-ID: 20240419230056.GC6524 () wahoo ! no-ip ! org
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* Robert Webb via openSUSE Factory <factory@lists.opensuse.org> [04-19-24 18:45]:
>  On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:16:26 -0400, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
> > * Martin Wilck via openSUSE Factory <factory@lists.opensuse.org> [04-19-24 05:38]:
> >> On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:16 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:
> >> > I understand that every experienced user obviously always does it
> >> > but as ultimately experienced user with final wisdom I learned
> >> > following recommendations makes life easier (except exceptions)
> >>
> >> I don't think consensus will ever be reached on this subject.
> >> Greetings from a strict "solver.onlyRequires = true" fanboy.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> PS: Just checked out of curiosity, "zypper inr --recommends" would only
> >> install 165 additional packages on my workstation, occupying ~300MiB.
> >> That's much less than what it used to be - perhaps only texlive users
> >> must disable recommends these days.
> >
> > "zypper inr --recommends" gets me:
> >
> >   The following 10 NEW patterns are going to be installed:
> >     documentation  20200505-48.2
> >     fonts          20170319-12.1
> >     fonts_opt      20170319-12.1
> >     kde_yast       20240311-2.1
> >     multimedia     20201106-3.7
> >     sw_management  20200505-48.2
> >     x11_enhanced   20200505-48.2
> >     x11_yast       20220411-1.6
> >     yast2_basis    20220411-1.6
> >     yast2_desktop  20220411-1.6
> >                       
> >   1155 new packages to install.
> >   Overall download size: 955.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B.  After the
> >   operation, additional 3.1 GiB will be used.
> >
> > a significant amount.
> 
> 'zypper inr --no-recommends' is more limited but will still get you
> the *-lang packages.
> 
> >From zypper(8):
>   "Called as zypper inr --no-recommends, it restricts the command to
>   just look for packages supporting available hardware, languages or
>   filesystems."
> 
> So what is the damage in that case? :-)

The following 12 NEW packages are going to be installed:
  
  accountsservice-lang 
  gsettings-desktop-schemas-lang kcoreaddons-lang
  kf6-kcoreaddons-lang 
  libKF5JobWidgets5-lang
  libKF5WidgetsAddons5-lang 
  libKF6JobWidgets6-lang
  libKF6WidgetsAddons6-lang 
  libvdpau_nouveau marble-lang
  openSUSE-repos-MicroOS-NVIDIA 
  openSUSE-repos-Slowroll-NVIDIA
      
  12 new packages to install.
  Overall download size: 31.0 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the
  operation, additional 60.4 MiB will be used.
  

but I run Tumbleweed and speak/read English, so what need do I have for
any Slowroll pgm or any of the cited lang packages?
      
      



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