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List:       opensuse-factory
Subject:    Re: openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 03.01.2024
From:       Jim Henderson <hendersj () gmail ! com>
Date:       2024-01-05 13:23:01
Message-ID: pan$4f9bf$25235073$bab58822$e928968f () gmail ! com
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:07:06 +0100 (CET), Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> I don't run desktop Leap (but Tumbleweed), so I would have never seen
> that Leap wallpaper to even form an opinion about it. You can't just
> translate that to "warm feedback" (or cold feedback for that matter).

Same here, and also those who updated to 15.5 and were not using the 
default wallpaper probably would never have seen it either, as their 
previously-set wallpaper preferences would have precluded the new 
wallpaper being seen.

The majority of those who would have seen it would probably not have even 
known there was a different logo previously (ie, first-time users 
installing it).  There would have been some who were familiar with the old 
logo who would have installed it, but their focus probably wouldn't be on 
the desktop wallpaper post-install; they likely would be installing it for 
a specific purpose (testing, reinstalling a broken system, migrating an 
old system to a new one, etc).

So it seems that this decision is being driven solely by a lack of 
negative feedback from people who probably would never have had reason to 
see it (or to notice it) in the first place.

This does not seem to be a time to declare "silence is alignment", when 
nobody had a reason to look for this unannounced (or "stealth announced") 
change.

That seems to be a good reason to hold back on including it at this point 
(and potentially reversing direction), since the logo change was brought 
to everyone's attention with the recent vote (regardless of the issues 
with the vote itself).

On Fri,  5 Jan 2024 10:38:01 +0000, Bernd Ritter wrote:

> the distro logos are not an identity. They identify a branch of
> development.

By definition, if they *identify* a branch of development, they are part 
of the brand *identity*.

Identity:  the fact of being who or what a person or thing is.

Identify:  establish or indicate who or what (someone or something) is.

Q.E.D.

-- 
 Jim Henderson
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