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Subject: Re: openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 03.01.2024
From: Bernd Ritter <comrad () posteo ! de>
Date: 2024-01-04 19:32:45
Message-ID: 633b9429-74bd-4168-8a3c-158f4041295f () posteo ! de
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Hey fellow chameleons,
wont the chameleon stay as opensuse mascot? Just the logos for the
distros are about to be steamlined. And so far I know the Tumbleweed and
Leap logos are recognizable but I dont identify with them - I do with
the chameleon.
my 2 euro cents,
Bernd
Am 04.01.24 um 14:30 schrieb Axel Braun:
>
> Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 20:23:25 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
>
> > * Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> [01-03-24 12:41]:
>
> > > Hallo zusammen,
>
> > >
>
> > > Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 16:55:08 CET schrieb Lubos Kocman via
>
> > > openSUSE Factory:
>
> > > > Leap already has a wallpaper including the newly elected logo,
> perhaps
>
> > > > we could scan for some other occurrences of the old logo. I see one
>
> > > > in "About system" in gnome-settings. I suspect that KDE will have a
>
> > > > similar placement.
>
> > >
>
> > > I'm not sure if this is a good idea.
>
> > >
>
> > > The logo survey had some serious flaws, most important: it did not
>
> > > include our current logo, despite being submitted by someone. (And
> I'll
>
> > > not even start with the detail that it wasn't automatically included.
>
> > > Even I am not evil enough to come up with such an idea.)
>
> > >
>
> > > The main reason why the logo discussion is currently quiet is that we
>
> > > got a promise that there will be a membership vote where we can
> choose
>
> > > between the current and the possible new logo.
>
> > >
>
> > > However, that also means that geeko, our current logo is still our
> logo.
>
> > > I have serious doubts that the majority of our members want a new
> logo,
>
> > > therefore it might be a good idea not to replace our current logo
> until
>
> > > we had the membership vote about it. (Unless someone is keen to
> possibly
>
> > > revert several *-branding packages.)
>
>
> > agreed. Changing logos is about changing IDENTITY. why would we
> want to
>
> > do that. is our history not something to be proud of?
>
>
> +1
>
>
> You dont change an identity or brand just for the fun of it. Only if
> there is a certain reason, e.g. because it is burned or the scope of
> your business changes
>
>
> I see neither of these reasons for openSUSE
>
>
> My 2c
>
> Axel
>
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<p>Hey fellow chameleons,</p>
<p>wont the chameleon stay as opensuse mascot? Just the logos for
the distros are about to be steamlined. And so far I know the
Tumbleweed and Leap logos are recognizable but I dont identify
with them - I do with the chameleon.</p>
<p>my 2 euro cents,<br>
Bernd<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.01.24 um 14:30 schrieb Axel
Braun:<br>
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Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 20:23:25 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:</p>
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* Christian Boltz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:opensuse@cboltz.de"><opensuse@cboltz.de></a> [01-03-24 12:41]:</p> \
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> Hallo zusammen,</p>
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> </p>
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> Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 16:55:08 CET schrieb Lubos
Kocman via </p>
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> openSUSE Factory:</p>
<p
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> > Leap already has a wallpaper including the newly
elected logo, perhaps</p>
<p
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> > we could scan for some other occurrences of the old
logo. I see one</p>
<p
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> > in "About system" in gnome-settings. I suspect that
KDE will have a</p>
<p
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> > similar placement.</p>
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> </p>
<p
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> I'm not sure if this is a good idea.</p>
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> </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> The logo survey had some serious flaws, most important: it
did not </p>
<p
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> include our current logo, despite being submitted by
someone. (And I'll </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> not even start with the detail that it wasn't automatically
included. </p>
<p
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> Even I am not evil enough to come up with such an idea.)</p>
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> </p>
<p
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> The main reason why the logo discussion is currently quiet
is that we </p>
<p
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> got a promise that there will be a membership vote where we
can choose </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> between the current and the possible new logo.</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> However, that also means that geeko, our current logo is
still our logo.</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> I have serious doubts that the majority of our members want
a new logo, </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> therefore it might be a good idea not to replace our
current logo until </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> we had the membership vote about it. (Unless someone is
keen to possibly </p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">>
> revert several *-branding packages.)</p>
<br>
<p
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agreed. Changing logos is about changing IDENTITY. why would
we want to</p>
<p
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do that. is our history not something to be proud of?</p>
<br>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">+1</p>
<br>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">You
dont change an identity or brand just for the fun of it. Only if
there is a certain reason, e.g. because it is burned or the
scope of your business changes</p>
<br>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">I see
neither of these reasons for openSUSE</p>
<br>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">My 2c</p>
<p
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Axel</p>
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