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Subject: Re: openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 03.01.2024
From: Axel Braun <docb () opensuse ! org>
Date: 2024-01-04 13:30:44
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Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 20:23:25 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> * Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> [01-03-24 12:41]:
> > Hallo zusammen,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 16:55:08 CET schrieb Lubos Kocman via
> > openSUSE Factory:
> > > Leap already has a wallpaper including the newly elected logo, perhaps
> > > we could scan for some other occurrences of the old logo. I see one
> > > in "About system" in gnome-settings. I suspect that KDE will have a
> > > similar placement.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is a good idea.
> >
> > The logo survey had some serious flaws, most important: it did not
> > include our current logo, despite being submitted by someone. (And I'll
> > not even start with the detail that it wasn't automatically included.
> > Even I am not evil enough to come up with such an idea.)
> >
> > The main reason why the logo discussion is currently quiet is that we
> > got a promise that there will be a membership vote where we can choose
> > between the current and the possible new logo.
> >
> > However, that also means that geeko, our current logo is still our logo.
> > I have serious doubts that the majority of our members want a new logo,
> > therefore it might be a good idea not to replace our current logo until
> > we had the membership vote about it. (Unless someone is keen to possibly
> > revert several *-branding packages.)
> agreed. Changing logos is about changing IDENTITY. why would we want to
> do that. is our history not something to be proud of?
+1
You dont change an identity or brand just for the fun of it. Only if there is a \
certain reason, e.g. because it is burned or the scope of your business changes
I see neither of these reasons for openSUSE
My 2c
Axel
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Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 20:23:25 CET schrieb Patrick Shanahan:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> * Christian \
Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> [01-03-24 12:41]:</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Hallo \
zusammen,</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
> </p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
> Am Mittwoch, 3. Januar 2024, 16:55:08 CET schrieb Lubos Kocman via </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > openSUSE \
Factory:</p> <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> \
> > Leap already has a wallpaper including the newly elected logo, perhaps</p> \
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > > \
we could scan for some other occurrences of the old logo. I see one</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > > in \
"About system" in gnome-settings. I suspect that KDE will have a</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > > \
similar placement.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I'm not \
sure if this is a good idea.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > The logo \
survey had some serious flaws, most important: it did not </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > include \
our current logo, despite being submitted by someone. (And I'll </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > not even \
start with the detail that it wasn't automatically included. </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Even I \
am not evil enough to come up with such an idea.)</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > The main \
reason why the logo discussion is currently quiet is that we </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > got a \
promise that there will be a membership vote where we can choose </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > between \
the current and the possible new logo.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > However, \
that also means that geeko, our current logo is still our logo.</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I have \
serious doubts that the majority of our members want a new logo, </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > \
therefore it might be a good idea not to replace our current logo until </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > we had \
the membership vote about it. (Unless someone is keen to possibly </p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > revert \
several *-branding packages.)</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> agreed. \
Changing logos is about changing IDENTITY. why would we want to</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> do \
that. is our history not something to be proud of?</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">+1</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">You dont change an \
identity or brand just for the fun of it. Only if there is a certain reason, e.g. \
because it is burned or the scope of your business changes</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">I see neither of \
these reasons for openSUSE</p> <br /><p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">My 2c</p> <p \
style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Axel</p> </body>
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