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List:       opensuse
Subject:    Re: [opensuse] Stupid Google Redirect URL Utility
From:       Dave Howorth <dhoworth () mrc-lmb ! cam ! ac ! uk>
Date:       2009-06-09 14:12:22
Message-ID: 4A2E6DC6.6060902 () mrc-lmb ! cam ! ac ! uk
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Tuesday June 9 2009, Dave Howorth wrote:
>> Randall R Schulz wrote:
>>> On Tuesday June 9 2009, Dave Howorth wrote:
>>>> Clayton wrote:
>>>>>> I believe one of them mentioned that it only
>>>>>> applied to users logged in to Google itself, which I am.
>>>>> I am logged into Google... I still cannot find a way to duplicate
>>>>> this new behavior.
>>>> I was logged in. I now 'signed out' but still get the evil page if
>>>> javascript is enabled.
>>> You do realize that it's only the URL that you get if you Copy Link
>>> Location or Save Link As.., right? If you just click the search
>>> result, the net result is to redirect back through Google to the
>>> actual search hit URL. It's basically transparent to the browser
>>> user for simple link clicks and allows Google to get feedback on
>>> search quality (something I have no problem with).
>> Sorry, I don't understand the intent of your comment. But if it is
>> related, I use View/Message Source to determine which page I'm
>> getting.
> 
> Then you're not going to see it (if you have JavaScript enabled and are 
> logged in to Google).

Sorry, I'm still not understanding. What is 'it'? What I'm trying to
determine is whether I get a page with normal <a> elements containing
direct links to the target pages or not. Viewing the source does indeed
show me the difference.

I think we're talking at cross-purposes but I don't understand what you
are trying to tell me.

And yes, I already know everything that follows.

> I just looked a the source for a Google search results page and you 
> cannot find any of the result text (link titles or URLs) that appears 
> in the rendered page. Apparently most of the page's DOM is synthesized 
> by JavaScript code.
> 
> Another interesting aspect of this is that if you just mouse over the 
> search hit link, the address shown in the lower-left-hand corner of the 
> browser is the correct link. But as soon as you mouse down (right or 
> left) on that link it switches to the SGRU. You can see it happen in 
> the link address feedback (at least on Firefox).

If you use firebug, you will see that it is making web requests on
mousedown events.

But I am now capturing the correct URL when I Copy Link Location, even
with Javascript enabled. My favourite hypothesis now is that the broken
behaviour is a bug that they have now fixed and are part way through
rolling out. I'd be interested to know what the source of the google
page looks like for other people.

Cheers, Dave
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