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From: Lubos Kocman <setuid () setuid ! cc>
Date: 2009-06-16 7:44:03
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Damn guys,
why do you want to change these stuff?
1) not everybody likes
colorful stuff ... mainly from linux world (i think that guy who invented this idea \
with svcs came from there) ...
2) If you want to have color support in ls then use gnu
version with of ls --color (change path or create alias to it). The same with other \
stuff
Please do not try to mess traditional svr4 stuff with stuff / features
that you like on linux (rc-update ....) .....
I'll tell you a story.
Oneguy had a perfect and comfortable room called myroom. Then other guycame and took \
a can with green & cyan color, a hammer and almoststarted repainting and \
re-structuring of the room. First guyimmidiately stopped the second one and told \
him, that he can take thesecond room and left first room as it is. Because when \
everybody entersroom (even after some time) he well except still the same room and \
nota girder which will hit him into a head.
Hope you get it
--
Best regards
Lubos Kocman
UNIX IT Specialist 2nd level support, IBM
"Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who its friends are."
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Richard L.
Hamilton<no-reply@opensolaris.org> wrote:
> [...]
> > > and svcs would be also nice with
> > > colors.
> > >
> > > for svcs:
> > > online should be green
> > > offline and maintenance should be red
> >
> > An interesting idea.
>
> First, not everyone _wants_ color! Most of the time, I use lower-contrast
> windows (grey background, black text), and color looks horrible on them. On my
> Mac, I usually use translucent black background and white text, on which color is \
> also not good. Color only works well with default black text on a white or almost \
> white background.
>
> However, I think it works better for a one-item-per-line display than for something
> like ls -C; to me, a multi-column display of relatively short items looks very \
> cluttered in color.
>
> Second, as a _non_default (unless maybe one set an environment variable or an
> alias with a command line option) behavior, I'd rather see svcs have:
>
> online: green
>
> maintenance: red
>
> degraded: yellow (could be either a problem of its own or with a dependency)
>
> offline: magenta (since offline will usually go online after the service
> in maintenance mode that it depends on is successfully cleared - it's seldom a
> separate problem)
>
> uninitialized: cyan (or blue), just because it would be unusual to actually see \
> this
> legacy_run, disabled: black (the former not actively managed by SMF, the latter \
> being intentional either by default or by explicit action, these are boring, and I \
> want to try not to use all of the 7 ANSI colors other than white in case we want \
> another later on)
> --
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<html><head><style type='text/css'>body { font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; }p { \
margin: 0; }</style></head><body>Damn guys,<br><br>why do you want to change these \
stuff?<br><br>1) not everybody likes<br> colorful stuff ... mainly from linux world \
(i think that guy who invented this idea with svcs came from there) ...<br><br>2) If \
you want to have color support in ls then use gnu<br> version with of ls --color \
(change path or create alias to it). The same with other stuff<br><br>Please do \
not try to mess traditional svr4 stuff with stuff / features<br> that you like \
on linux (rc-update ....) .....<br><br>I'll tell you a story.<br><br>One guy had a \
perfect and comfortable room called myroom. Then other guy came and took a can \
with green & cyan color, a hammer and almost started repainting and \
re-structuring of the room. First guy immidiately stopped the second one and \
told him, that he can take the second room and left first room as it is. Because when \
everybody enters room (even after some time) he well except still the same room and \
not a girder which will hit him into a head.<br><br>Hope you get it<br><br><br><br>
<br>
<font color="#888888">--<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Lubos Kocman<br>
UNIX IT Specialist 2nd level support, IBM<br>
<br>
"Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who its friends \
are."<br><br></font> <div><div><span id="q_121e455b63301324_1" class="h4">- Hide \
quoted text -</span></div><div class="im"><br> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM, \
Richard L.<br> Hamilton<<a \
href="mailto:no-reply@opensolaris.org">no-reply@opensolaris.<wbr>org</a>> \
wrote:<br> > [...]<br>
>> > and svcs would be also nice with<br>
>> > colors.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > for svcs:<br>
>> > online should be green<br>
>> > offline and maintenance should be red<br>
>><br>
>> An interesting idea.<br>
><br>
> First, not everyone _wants_ color! Most of the time, I use \
lower-contrast<br> > windows (grey background, black text), and color looks \
horrible on them. On my<br> > Mac, I usually use translucent black \
background and white text, on which color is also<br> > not good. Color only \
works well with default black text on a white or almost white<br> > \
background.<br> ><br>
> However, I think it works better for a one-item-per-line display than for \
something<br> > like ls -C; to me, a multi-column display of relatively short \
items looks very cluttered<br> > in color.<br>
><br>
> Second, as a _non_default (unless maybe one set an environment variable or \
an<br> > alias with a command line option) behavior, I'd rather see svcs have:<br>
><br>
> online: green<br>
><br>
> maintenance: red<br>
><br>
> degraded: yellow (could be either a problem of its own or with a dependency)<br>
><br>
> offline: magenta (since offline will usually go online after the service<br>
> in maintenance mode that it depends on is successfully cleared - it's seldom \
a<br> > separate problem)<br>
><br>
> uninitialized: cyan (or blue), just because it would be unusual to actually see \
this<br> ><br>
> legacy_run, disabled: black (the former not actively managed by SMF, the latter \
being<br> > intentional either by default or by explicit action, these are boring, \
and I want to<br> > try not to use all of the 7 ANSI colors other than white in \
case we want another later<br> > on)<br>
> --<br>
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target="_blank">opensolaris.org</a><br> > \
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