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Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled,
From: Octave Orgeron <unixconsole () yahoo ! com>
Date: 2010-09-09 15:45:42
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Yeah, I heard rumors about what the ROCK servers would have been capable of
doing. It's a shame it didn't make it to market. But I would assume that by the
time that could have gotten out of the door, UltraSPARC-T3 or the next SPARC64
would have out performed it. Speaking of Infiniband, I still think that Sun
Oracle should use that as the glue behind the CPU, Memory, and I/O and just goto
a building block architecture.
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Octave J. Orgeron
Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant
Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
E-Mail: unixconsole@yahoo.com
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From: Kyle McDonald <kmcdonald@egenera.com>
To: Kyle McDonald <kmcdonald@egenera.com>
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org; Karel Gardas <karel.gardas@centrum.cz>
Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 9:04:55 AM
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris
11 Express
On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote:
>
It never shipped, (well it did kinda, but not in it's full glory) but
>the group I was in at Sun had developed HW to connect multiple E6K,
>and E10K machines (up to 16 if I remember correctly) together, and
>scale a single kernel instance across all of them.
>
>
Sorry, actually, I have the models confused. It was developed for multiple
F6000/F6500, and I think it was planned to work in the F15K also. The HW did
ship to some limited customers I beleive, but only as a HPC shared memory
interconnect, (RSM might have been the product name) between multiple
kernels. I'm pretty sure we had the single kernel scaling well in the lab
though before the project was scrapped.
If anyone cares there was an earlier project to do a similar connection
between 4 E6000's, but that was killed when Sun bought Cray, and acquired
what became the E10K.
After the project for the F series was killed, the same group started
working on parts of the system (Millenium/Eagle) that would follow the F
series. At one point there was talk of doing it again running 1 kernel on
multiple boxes over IB, but that whole system was scrapped in favor of
Niagra/Fujistu systems in the short term, and 'ROCK' in the long term... But
but ROCK was also scrapped not too long before Oracle bought Sun.
As others have said Sun was great as the engineering side of things. Not so
great at deciding what to (or not to) engineer, and not the best at
marketing the things they did engineer and build.
-Kyle
There just weren't enough places interested in buying a machine that
>large.
>
> -Kyle
>
>
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would assume that by the time that could have gotten out of the door, UltraSPARC-T3 \
or the next SPARC64 would have out performed it. Speaking of Infiniband, I still \
think that Sun Oracle should use that as the glue behind the CPU, Memory, and I/O and \
just goto a building block architecture. \
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On 9/9/2010 9:49 AM, Kyle McDonald wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">It never shipped, (well it did kinda, but
not in it's full glory) but<br>
the group I was in at Sun had developed HW to connect multiple
E6K,<br>
and E10K machines (up to 16 if I remember correctly) together,
and<br>
scale a single kernel instance across all of them.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Sorry, actually, I have the models confused. It was developed for
multiple F6000/F6500, and I think it was planned to work in the
F15K also. The HW did ship to some limited customers I beleive,
but only as a HPC shared memory interconnect, (RSM might have been
the product name) between multiple kernels. I'm pretty sure we had
the single kernel scaling well in the lab though before the
project was scrapped.<br>
<br>
If anyone cares there was an earlier project to do a similar
connection between 4 E6000's, but that was killed when Sun bought
Cray, and acquired what became the E10K.<br>
<br>
After the project for the F series was killed, the same group
started working on parts of the system (Millenium/Eagle) that
would follow the F series. At one point there was talk of doing it
again running 1 kernel on multiple boxes over IB, but that whole
system was scrapped in favor of Niagra/Fujistu systems in the
short term, and 'ROCK' in the long term... But but ROCK was also
scrapped not too long before Oracle bought Sun. <br>
<br>
As others have said Sun was great as the engineering side of
things. Not so great at deciding what to (or not to) engineer, and
not the best at marketing the things they did engineer and build.<br>
<br>
-Kyle<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">There just weren't enough places
interested in buying a machine that<br>
large.<br>
<br>
-Kyle<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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