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Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-devel] Re: [osol-discuss] Sequencers/music editors
From: Sergio <Serge.Coche () free ! fr>
Date: 2006-05-16 17:37:55
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Le mar 16/05/2006 17:45, Guillaume Laurent a crit :
> Sergio wrote:
> >
> > In the fact, i'm certainly not the only one musician as Solaris user
> Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if you were. Musicians who also are
> linux users are already pretty rare (they may look numerous from the
> rg-devel point of view, but that's just because they all gather here),
> but musicians using Solaris ? I'd already be hard pressed to find
> someone using Solaris at all nowadays, let alone a musician.
Yes ! Of course : the Solaris users and musicians makes like i : one Solaris \
partition as principal, a second partition under Linux especially for the music \
composition (Rosegarden at first), because the API. But this design is only a wait \
solution.
>
> > - I'll try to send a copy of this interessant discussion to the
> > rosegarden team, in the case where they have the idea to produce some
> > development for help us (like also BSD and OSX) :D
>
> Let me be frank : we barely have the resources to develop RG on Linux,
Yes yes yes : and RG is yet a great thing, everyone can see (and heard :D !) this, \
that is certainly a lot of work everyday, a simple look at the devel-forum or at the \
programms makes that easy to understand : but the real problem isn't an OS problem, \
only an API problem. ALSA, aRTs, Jack, OSS... I mean that the port concerns only a \
part of the developpers.
>
> so there's no chance that we're going to spend time and brain cycles to
> make it work on another system, unless we'd be sure that we'd meet the
> needs of *a lot* of users. A possible first candidate would be OS/X. The
> BSD family would be a very distant second. But Solaris
- Don't forget all Posix : HP, AIX, Irix : as example, OSS provide for all Posix.
> doesn't even come
> into consideration. We'll accept patches
Very interessant : Stefan Teleman, the moderator of the kde-Solaris list (adaptation \
from each version of KDE to make it compilable not only with GCC, but also with the \
Solaris native compiler) told me (that appears yet on the Opensolaris forum) that \
he's working on a native Solaris driver making the OS able to accept Jack as API, if \
i good understood : in this case, RG could work directely on Sol without ALSA, only \
with Jack wich has, as you know, low latency itself. If it works for the next version \
of Sol10, the task will for you "only" :D to make the RGsequencer able to work with \
Jack only, as it was considered in this forum a year ago, if i good readed any tread \
about this with anyone OSX user.
> , if someone really wants to
> take on this task, but that's all.
As conclusion i repeat : my idea is not Solaris for Solaris ; simply the reality is \
that RG is yet the best in the domain, so good as Cakewalk on W..., and it could be \
damage that it rests unavailable on most Unix systems. It begun, if i good remember, \
on Solaris and Irix...
Cheers,
Sergio.
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Le mar 16/05/2006 à 17:45, Guillaume Laurent a écrit :<BR>
<BR>
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<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>Sergio wrote:
>
> In the fact, i'm certainly not the only one musician as Solaris user
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if you were. Musicians who also are
linux users are already pretty rare (they may look numerous from the
rg-devel point of view, but that's just because they all gather here),
but musicians using Solaris ? I'd already be hard pressed to find
someone using Solaris at all nowadays, let alone a musician.</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
Yes ! Of course : the Solaris users and musicians makes like i : one Solaris \
partition as principal, a second partition under Linux especially for the music \
composition (Rosegarden at first), because the API. But this design is only a wait \
solution. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>
> - I'll try to send a copy of this interessant discussion to the
> rosegarden team, in the case where they have the idea to produce some
> development for help us (like also BSD and OSX) :D
Let me be frank : we barely have the resources to develop RG on \
Linux,</I></FONT></PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes yes yes : and RG is yet a great thing, everyone can see (and heard <IMG \
SRC="cid:1147797680.823.12.camel@unknown" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=":D" BORDER="0"> !) \
this, that is certainly a lot of work everyday, a simple look at the devel-forum or \
at the programms makes that easy to understand : but the real problem isn't an OS \
problem, only an API problem. ALSA, aRTs, Jack, OSS... I mean that the port concerns \
only a part of the developpers. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>
so there's no chance that we're going to spend time and brain cycles to
make it work on another system, unless we'd be sure that we'd meet the
needs of *a lot* of users. A possible first candidate would be OS/X. The
BSD family would be a very distant second. But Solaris</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
- Don't forget all Posix : HP, AIX, Irix : as example, OSS provide for all Posix.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I> doesn't even come
into consideration. We'll accept patches</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
Very interessant : Stefan Teleman, the moderator of the kde-Solaris list (adaptation \
from each version of KDE to make it compilable not only with GCC, but also with the \
Solaris native compiler) told me (that appears yet on the <A \
HREF="http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=8954&tstart=15">Opensolaris \
forum</A>) that he's working on a native Solaris driver making the OS able to accept \
Jack as API, if i good understood : in this case, RG could work directely on Sol \
without ALSA, only with Jack wich has, as you know, low latency itself. If it works \
for the next version of Sol10, the task will for you "only" <IMG \
SRC="cid:1147797680.823.12.camel@unknown" ALIGN="bottom" ALT=":D" BORDER="0"> to make \
the RGsequencer able to work with Jack only, as it was considered in this forum a \
year ago, if i good readed any tread about this with anyone OSX user. <BLOCKQUOTE \
TYPE=CITE> <PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>, if someone really wants to
take on this task, but that's all.</I></FONT></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
As conclusion i repeat : my idea is not Solaris for Solaris ; simply the reality is \
that RG is yet the best in the domain, so good as Cakewalk on W..., and it could be \
damage that it rests unavailable on most Unix systems. It begun, if i good remember, \
on Solaris and Irix...<BR> <BR>
Cheers,<BR>
<BR>
Sergio.<BR>
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