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Subject:    Re: [opennms-discuss] No alram for outdated outages
From:       "John Blake" <jblake () us ! ibm ! com>
Date:       2016-01-26 21:23:58
Message-ID: 201601262124.u0QLO5Y0025501 () d03av05 ! boulder ! ibm ! com
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<font face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">&nbsp;Hes \
da man so I'd do what he recommends.<br>&nbsp;I'll see if I need to adjust \
mine.<br>&nbsp;I dont want it to stop polling unless the node is deleted. \
<br>&nbsp;<br>Thanks for relaying the info.<br>John<br><br><br><font \
color="#990099">-----"Seibold, Michael" &lt;<a target="_blank" \
href="mailto:Michael.Seibold@gkvi.de">Michael.Seibold@gkvi.de</a>&gt; wrote: \
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style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left:solid black 2px;">To: General \
OpenNMS Discussion &lt;<a target="_blank" \
href="mailto:opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net">opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net</a>&gt;<br>From: \
"Seibold, Michael" &lt;<a target="_blank" \
href="mailto:Michael.Seibold@gkvi.de">Michael.Seibold@gkvi.de</a>&gt;<br>Date: \
01/26/2016 05:10AM<br>Subject: Re: [opennms-discuss] No alram for outdated \
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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US">FYI:<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US">Alejandro told me just last week NOT to just remove the delete option \
but to replase it with a "long time" polling interval, otherwise it migth get  \
unmanaged (totally?) as the poller expects either delete="true" or an polling \
interval. There will be no error message when delete="true" is just \
missing!<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US">… and that polls waiting for an timeout will block the polling thread \
until the timeout of the poll, so you shouldn't have a lot of unreachables hanging  \
around for a long time. Use JVM monitoring of OpenNMS to monitor the number of active \
poller threads. If they are reaching the configured maximum &nbsp;check you system if \
there are many unreachables, the config if (number of retries+1)*timeout is &gt; \
polling-interval  (polls will queue up) and the number of polling \
threads.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US">-Michael<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" \
lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" \
lang="EN-US">Von:</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" \
lang="EN-US"> John Blake [<a target="_blank" \
href="mailto:jblake@us.ibm.com">mailto:jblake@us.ibm.com</a>] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> \
Montag, 25. Januar 2016 15</span><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:37<br><b>An:</b> \
General OpenNMS Discussion<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [opennms-discuss] No alram for \
outdated outages<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;The \
poller config controls the poller. The "downtime = delete" part tells the poller to \
stop polling the service after 5 days.<br>&nbsp;That doesnt mean the service is back \
up, it just means it will be "unmanaged" (not polled anymore). <br><br><a \
href="https://www.opennms.org/wiki/Polling_Configuration_How-To#Polling" \
target="_blank">https://www.opennms.org/wiki/Polling_Configuration_How-To#Polling</a><br><br>&nbsp;If \
you want ONMS to always poll services till they come back up (or the node is \
deleted), then remove the "delete" option.<br>&nbsp;<br>John<br><br><br><font \
color="#990099">-----onmstester onmstester &lt;<a href="mailto:onmstester@zoho.com" \
target="_blank">onmstester@zoho.com</a>&gt; wrote: \
-----</font><p></p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid black \
1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" \
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">To: \
"<a href="mailto:opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net" \
target="_blank">opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net</a>" &lt;<a \
href="mailto:opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net" \
target="_blank">opennms-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net</a>&gt;<br>From: onmstester \
onmstester &lt;<a href="mailto:onmstester@zoho.com" \
target="_blank">onmstester@zoho.com</a>&gt;<br>Date: 01/24/2016 05:05AM<br>Subject: \
[opennms-discuss] No alram for outdated outages<p></p></span></p><div><div \
id=""><p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: \
&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><font \
color="#2a2a2a">Hi,</font></span><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><p></p></span></p><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alarms \
for outages on opennms would be deleted after some 5 \
days.<p></p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I \
assume that it is a feature which is controlled by poller config: &lt;downtime \
delete="true"/&gt;<p></p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">but \
why a node which none of its services was not available for more than 5 days would \
have green color(normal state) on maps and dashboard.<p></p></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I' \
think like i should have another level of severity which indicates node outage(all of \
its services) and was not important so no one done a thing about it, but anyway it's  \
not normal and it's not green!!<p></p></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p></div><div><p \
class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p \
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