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List:       olpc-localization
Subject:    Re: [Localization] Vietnamese keyboard
From:       Clytie Siddall <clytie () riverland ! net ! au>
Date:       2010-04-07 7:15:02
Message-ID: A580D291-3E1C-4194-8778-5BB67A45B58D () riverland ! net ! au
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To: Marina (OLPC project worker, HÃ  Ná»™i), OLPC Localization list

Hi everyone :)

Marina has asked me:

On 07/04/2010, at 9:51 AM, Marina wrote:

> Do you know if anyone is working on fixing the keyboard symbols in Vietnamese on \
> the XOs? It is very important, as children can not type in their own language right \
> now, which makes it difficult.

Is there any progress on this issue? On 2010-03-16, Simos Xenitellis commented:

> I can get the characters for 6, 7 and 9 in another keyboard layout, which means
> that something is merely wrong in the keyboard layout you are using
> for Vietnamese
> on the OLPC.
> 
> To frame the issue, it is more like a case of not having the keyboard
> layout tested early.
> 
> Technical background: I do not know whether Vietnamese uses 'SCIM' or 'GTK+ IM'
> on the OLPC. Sayamindu?
> 1. If the OLPC uses 'SCIM', then you need to fix the SCIM layout for Vietnamese.
> 2. If the OLPC uses 'GTK+ IM', then those characters for cases 6, 7, 9
> are verified to work,
> so again it is a case of fixing the keyboard layout from XOrg. The
> keyboard layout file
> for Vietnamese is /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/vn

but nobody responded. Sayamindu, sorry to bother you with yet another question, but \
can you answer Simos' query? Can you try fixing the layout if it's GTK?

I had to amend the X11 layout on OSX to enable dead-key use in inputting Vietnamese, \
so the consequent wiki article might be useful:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/X11Keymaps

Nancie has told me I will be receiving a loan XO so I can help, but so far I haven't \
received any formal notification (nor the machine itself), so I feel like someone's \
bleeding next to me, and all I can do is tell them where to buy bandages in the next \
town. :(

from Clytie 

Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team


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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To: Marina (OLPC project worker, HÃ  Ná»™i), \
OLPC Localization list<div><br></div><div>Hi everyone \
:)</div><div><br></div><div>Marina has asked me:</div><div><br><div><div>On \
07/04/2010, at 9:51 AM, Marina wrote:</div><br \
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class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Lucida \
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normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; \
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Do you know if anyone is working on fixing the \
keyboard&nbsp;symbols in Vietnamese on the XOs?</div><div>It is very important, as \
children can not type in their own language right now, which makes it \
difficult.</div></span></blockquote><br></div><div>Is there any progress on this \
issue? On 2010-03-16, Simos Xenitellis \
commented:</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">I can get the characters \
for 6, 7 and 9 in another keyboard layout, which means<br>that something is merely \
wrong in the keyboard layout you are using<br>for Vietnamese<br>on the \
OLPC.<br><br>To frame the issue, it is more like a case of not having the \
keyboard<br>layout tested early.<br><br>Technical background: I do not know whether \
Vietnamese uses 'SCIM' or 'GTK+ IM'<br>on the OLPC. Sayamindu?<br>1. If the OLPC uses \
'SCIM', then you need to fix the SCIM layout for Vietnamese.<br>2. If the OLPC uses \
'GTK+ IM', then those characters for cases 6, 7, 9<br>are verified to work,<br>so \
again it is a case of fixing the keyboard layout from XOrg. The<br>keyboard layout \
file<br>for Vietnamese is \
/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/vn</blockquote><br></div><div>but nobody responded. \
Sayamindu, sorry to bother you with yet another question, but can you answer Simos' \
query? Can you try fixing the layout if it's GTK?</div><div><br></div><div>I had to \
amend the X11 layout on OSX to enable dead-key use in inputting Vietnamese, so the \
consequent wiki article might be useful:</div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/X11Keymaps">http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/X11Keymaps</a></div><div><br></div><div>Nancie \
has told me I will be receiving a loan XO so I can help, but so far I haven't \
received any formal notification (nor the machine itself), so I feel like someone's \
bleeding next to me, and all I can do is tell them where to buy bandages in the next \
town. :(</div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div \
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Clytie&nbsp;</span></font></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; \
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Helvetica; ">Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team</span></font></p></div></span> \
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