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Subject:    Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and
From:       Tom Swindell <t.swindell () rubyx ! co ! uk>
Date:       2011-10-04 12:08:30
Message-ID: 1317730110.4278.8.camel () Artemis
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On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:58 +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan@omniqueue.com>
> wrote:
>         On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Munk
>         <carsten@maemo.org> wrote:
>         > Long story short: buildd and launchpad is very useful but
>         only when
>         > you're doing Debian and Debian only. 
> 
> 
> Except it was built by Canonical for Ubuntu and is used by Linaro. But
> perhaps those two things are "Debian" too? 
>  
>         OBS is different in many
>         > different ways and allows a proper productization
>         environment as well
>         > as growing an organisation organically.
>         
> 
> 
> What does that even mean?

OBS is built with packaging in mind, so it builds packages locally and
on servers in a sanitized environment. Scratchbox may be polluted by
whatever packages a developer has installed and makes dependency
tracking a bit harder IMO.

I think what Carsten means by "growing an organisation organically" is
that OBS allows multiple users to create their own repositories, it
allows us to separate different projects into different repositories for
staging or logical separation and it's easy and intuitive to do all of
this from the web interface and to tools provided.

OBS may not offer anything more or less than Launchpad or buildd, but it
is completely open source and it targets many more distributions than
Launchpad or buildd do.

>  
>         
>         
>         I see, thanks for enlightening me. 
> 
> 
> You're not enlightened, you've just gotten a perspective from one
> developer on why they like what they like.
>  
>         We should then look to add the
>         missing features like Feature Planning (blueprint) and others
>         from
>         Launchpad, although we could just use the wiki for everything
>         not
>         build / commit stuff.
> 
> 
> NB - Not all of Launchpad is open source.
>         
>         >
>         > The choice has been made to go for OBS and RPM in Mer -
>         we'll be in a
>         > even longer cycle if we were to revert to Debian based
>         things and it's
>         > not obvious there'll be any benefit - I personally got
>         bitten badly by
>         > basing on Debian/Ubuntu in the first iteration of Mer. We're
>         here now
>         > and we have something that works and expertise in these
>         areas. That's
>         > the direction we're going in.
>         >
>         > (I swear, if we are going to have the RPM vs DEB talk, I'll
>         propose we
>         > switch to rot13 encrypted zip files and actually go ahead
>         with it!)
>         
> 
> 
> Ignorance is bliss.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Jeremiah 
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