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Subject: Re: \after syntax?
From: Matthew Pierce <piercello () hotmail ! com>
Date: 2024-02-22 17:13:04
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Thanks to all for the assist!
The new-coder mistake I had made was in mentally attaching the \after function to the \
entire measure, instead of the note in question.
Best,
Matt
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From: Michael Werner <reznaeous@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 12:41 PM
To: Matthew Pierce <piercello@hotmail.com>
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: \after syntax?
Hi Matt,
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:53 AM Matthew Pierce \
<piercello@hotmail.com<mailto:piercello@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello all,
For hairpin positioning within a whole note, the Manual gives the syntax
\relative {
\after 2 \< c'1
}
Is there an effective \after syntax for hairpin positioning within NON-whole notes, \
such as the second note in this (intuitive but) nonviable expression?
\relative {
\after 2 \< c'4 2.
}
CONTEXT: I need to place an \espressivo-shaped, double-hairpin swell underneath a \
dotted half note. Also, I need it to be stretchable, so that I can horizontally align \
it with the other, more active parts/staffs in my orchestral score.
To emulate an \espressivo using actual dynamics by way of the \after function:
\version "2.25.13"
musA = \relative c' {
a'4 \after 8*3 \> a2.\< a2\! a2
}
musB = \relative c' {
a'4 \after 4. \> \after 2. \! a2.\< a2 a2
}
musC = \relative c' {
a'4 \after 4. \> a2.\< <>\! a2 a2
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice {
\musA
} } }
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice {
\musB
} } }
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice {
\musC
} } }
will produce:
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Three different ways of accomplishing the same thing. The first showing that you can \
indeed use scaling in the \after function (i.e. the 8*3 meaning 3 8th notes worth) \
and terminating the decrescendo on the following note. The second using \after to do \
the termination. The third uses the empty chord construct (i.e. the <> ) to attach \
the termination to. You are, of course, free to mix and match whichever method suits \
you.
--
Michael
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font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Thanks to all for the assist!<br>
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The new-coder mistake I had made was in mentally attaching the \after function to the \
entire measure, instead of the note in question.<br> <br>
Best, <br>
Matt</div>
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<reznaeous@gmail.com><br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 21, 2024 12:41 \
PM<br> <b>To:</b> Matthew Pierce <piercello@hotmail.com><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: \after syntax?</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Matt,<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 10:53 AM Matthew Pierce \
<<a href="mailto:piercello@hotmail.com" \
target="_blank">piercello@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> Hello all, <br>
<br>
For hairpin positioning within a whole note, the Manual gives the syntax</div>
<pre style="margin:0px; padding:1em"><div style="text-align:left; text-indent:0px; \
line-height:16.7375px"><span style="font-size:16.48px; \
color:rgb(0,0,136)">\relative</span><span style="font-size:16.48px; \
color:rgb(34,34,34)"> { </span><span style="font-size:16.48px; \
color:rgb(0,0,136)">\after</span><span style="font-size:16.48px; \
color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span style="font-size:16.48px; \
color:rgb(0,112,112)">2</span><span style="font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34)"> \
</span><span style="font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(122,85,5)">\<</span><span \
style="font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34)"> c'</span><span \
style="font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,112,112)">1 }</span></div></pre>
<div><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">Is there an effective </span><span style="font-family:monospace; \
font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,0,136); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">\after</span><span \
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> syntax for hairpin positioning within NON-whole notes, such \
as the </span><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; \
font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0); background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">second \
note</span><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"> in this (intuitive but) nonviable expression?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br> </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,0,136); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> \relative</span><span \
style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> {</span></div> <div><span \
style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><span \
style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,0,136); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">\after</span><span style="font-family:monospace; \
font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> \
</span><span style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,112,112); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">2</span><span style="font-family:monospace; \
font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> \
</span><span style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(122,85,5); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">\<</span><span style="font-family:monospace; \
font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> c'4 \
</span><span style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(34,34,34); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">2.</span></div> <div><span \
style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,112,112); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> }</span></div> <div \
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)"> \
<br> </div>
<div><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">CONTEXT: I need to place an </span><span \
style="font-family:monospace; font-size:16.48px; color:rgb(0,0,136); \
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">\espressivo</span><span \
style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; \
color:rgb(0,0,0)">-shaped, double-hairpin swell underneath a dotted half note. Also, \
I need it to be stretchable, so that I can horizontally align it with the other, more \
active parts/staffs in my orchestral score. <br>
</span></div>
</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>To emulate an \espressivo using actual dynamics by way of the \after \
function:</div> <div><br>
</div>
\version "2.25.13"<br>
<br>
musA = \relative c' {<br>
a'4 \after 8*3 \> a2.\< a2\! a2<br>
}<br>
<br>
musB = \relative c' {<br>
a'4 \after 4. \> \after 2. \! a2.\< a2 a2<br>
}<br>
<br>
musC = \relative c' {<br>
a'4 \after 4. \> a2.\< <>\! a2 a2<br>
}<br>
<br>
\score {<br>
\new Staff {<br>
\new Voice {<br>
\musA<br>
} } }<br>
<br>
\score {<br>
\new Staff {<br>
\new Voice {<br>
\musB<br>
} } }<br>
<br>
\score {<br>
\new Staff {<br>
\new Voice {<br>
\musC<br>
<div>} } }</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>will produce:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><img alt="image.png" width="255" height="192" style="margin-right:0px" \
data-outlook-trace="F:1|T:1" src="cid:ii_lsw5186g1"><br> <br>
</div>
<div></div>
<div>Three different ways of accomplishing the same thing. The first showing that you \
can indeed use scaling in the \after function (i.e. the 8*3 meaning 3 8th notes \
worth) and terminating the decrescendo on the following note. The second using \after \
to do the termination. The third uses the empty chord construct (i.e. the \
<> ) to attach the termination to. You are, of course, free to mix and match \
whichever method suits you.<br> </div>
<span class="x_gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br>
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<div>Michael<br>
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