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List:       kwrite-devel
Subject:    Re: Updating ki18n_wrap_ui usages to work with targets
From:       Alex Turbov <i.zaufi () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-08-06 21:23:19
Message-ID: CANktQtudTumotmgiweSiFjokEzNcELj4Y_2d--yqqAv7EvqTfw () mail ! gmail ! com
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Ugh, it sounds really disappointing to wait *half a year*!
The whole way looks very over-conservative to me. I imagine if someone has
a feature to ECM which must be adopted by N `kate`s dependencies...
Then the feature can be used in N/2 *years*!!! REALLY??!!
This turtle driven development could kill many good ideas %(

Seriously, what the reasons not to depend on the latest versions of KF
libs? As far as I know, framework libs released *before* KDE Plasma Apps.
So, having the latest deps looks pretty normal way to get the latest
features to me. What could be wrong w/ this approach?





On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:01 AM Daan De Meyer <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Alright, I thought (wrongly) that KDE applications always depended on
> the latest stable KDE Frameworks release. I'll put this on the back
> burner for now then.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daan
>
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 22:39, Dominik Haumann <dhaumann@kde.org> wrote:
> >
> > Are you talking about kate.git? If so:
> > https://github.com/KDE/kate/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L8
> >
> > Kate cannot depend on unreleased KDE Frameworks. I'd even say we should
> not depend on the latest Frameworks version.
> >
> > Wait a few months, best at least half a year, then changes like this
> become ok.
> >
> > Greetings
> > Dominik
> >
> > Daan De Meyer <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 6. Aug. 2019,
> 08:55:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> My revision to allow ki18n_wrap_ui to work on targets was merged.
> >> Should I wait until the next stable KDE Frameworks release before
> >> refactoring Kate's build scripts to use this new functionality or is
> >> it fine to use the new functionality before it is included in a stable
> >> release?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Daan
>

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<div dir="ltr"><div>Ugh, it sounds really disappointing to wait *half a \
year*!</div><div>The whole way looks very over-conservative to me. I imagine if \
someone has a feature to ECM which must be adopted by N `kate`s \
dependencies...</div><div>Then the feature can be used in N/2 *years*!!! REALLY??!! \
<br></div><div>This turtle driven development could kill many good ideas \
%(</div><div><br></div><div>Seriously, what the reasons not to depend on the latest \
versions of KF libs? As far as I know, framework libs released *before* KDE Plasma \
Apps. So, having the latest deps looks pretty normal way to get the latest features \
to me. What could be wrong w/ this \
approach?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:01 AM \
Daan De Meyer &lt;<a \
href="mailto:daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com">daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alright, I thought \
(wrongly) that KDE applications always depended on<br> the latest stable KDE \
Frameworks release. I&#39;ll put this on the back<br> burner for now then.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Daan<br>
<br>
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 22:39, Dominik Haumann &lt;<a href="mailto:dhaumann@kde.org" \
target="_blank">dhaumann@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Are you talking about kate.git? If so:<br>
&gt; <a href="https://github.com/KDE/kate/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L8" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/KDE/kate/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L8</a><br>
 &gt;<br>
&gt; Kate cannot depend on unreleased KDE Frameworks. I&#39;d even say we should not \
depend on the latest Frameworks version.<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Wait a few months, best at least half a year, then changes like this become \
ok.<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; Greetings<br>
&gt; Dominik<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Daan De Meyer &lt;<a href="mailto:daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com</a>&gt; schrieb am Di., 6. Aug. 2019, \
08:55:<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; My revision to allow ki18n_wrap_ui to work on targets was merged.<br>
&gt;&gt; Should I wait until the next stable KDE Frameworks release before<br>
&gt;&gt; refactoring Kate&#39;s build scripts to use this new functionality or is<br>
&gt;&gt; it fine to use the new functionality before it is included in a stable<br>
&gt;&gt; release?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Daan<br>
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