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Subject: Re: KWin GLES needs testers
From: Thomas Richard <thomas9999 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-01-06 23:16:02
Message-ID: 201101070016.02763.thomas9999 () gmail ! com
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Hey,
As i told you on IRC earlier today i tried the GLES backend out on my desktop
(Nvidia 7900GS with nouveau), without succes. I just had a black screen. Kwin
didn't crash or anything. The screen was just black. When moving my mouse
around the mouse pointer changed icons so there were definitly windows in the
background.
Tonight i tried the same procedure on my laptop with an Nvidia 8400M, also
running nouveau. The exact same thing happend. Black screen, no crash.
Now i come to think of it. I tried kwin --replace but didn't try to restart X
with the new kwin. Could that be a problem?
I'm using the Mesa packages from the ubuntu repositories. They're shipping
7.9.0.
This is what KWin tells me on startup (almost the same on both machines)
OpenGL vendor string: nouveau
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV49
OpenGL version string: OpenGL ES 2.0 Mesa 7.9-devel
OpenGL shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 1.0.16
Driver: Nouveau
GPU class: NV40/G70
OpenGL version: 0.0
GLSL version: 0.0
Mesa version: 7.9
X server version: 1.9
Linux kernel version: 2.6.35
Direct rendering: yes
Requires strict binding: yes
GLSL shaders: yes
Limited GLSL support: yes
Texture NPOT support: yes
Limited NPOT support: no
Desktop GL runs perfect though. Really feels more snappy. Good job!
Greetings
Thomas Richard
On Thursday 06 January 2011 06:42:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 23:50:38 Ignat Semenov wrote:
> > Hello again :)
> >
> > Built it (Mesa) from source. 7.9.0 it seems. KWin runs! But then.. all I
> > get is this:
> >
> > KWin KCM -> Enable Desktop Effects -> OpenGL -> Apply -> Accept
> > Configuration Dialog -> OK -> (hit Accept configuration) -> this:
> >
> > crash and no effects.
>
> I think it is caused by Qt pulling in desktop GL. I still don't understands
> why it works on my system, I would have expected that it crashes due to Qt
> pulling in desktop GL
>
> > Otherwise works.
> >
> > Interesting thing is, that the *very* same crash appeared when I tried to
> > launch KWin-GLES against NVIDIA binary (forgot to rmmod it and reload X
> > server, well, I'm like this at nights =P). On the very KDE desktop start
> > it crashed and gave me the very same backtrace. Interesting, isn't it?
> >
> > Mesa 7.9.0 (Source, installed in home directory along with the rest of
> > KDE using the awesome bash=profile script from Techbase and cmakekde
> > (for KDE) and Autotools with --prefix=/custom/prefix/ for Mesa)
> > nouveau from F14 stock, no soirce building here
> > KDE from source
> > Kwin-GLES latest checkout from your repo
> > Qt 4.7.something (must be) Fedora repos stock
> > F14 stock
> > and 8800GTS 320 Mb
> >
> > That's all my system, the relevant part of it.
> >
> > I'm free now to test it again and again, I hope. So feel free to ask me
> > ;)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ignat Semenov
> >
> > P.S. Subscribed to the list now, so no need to cross-post to Plasma, if
> > any.
> > On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:12:06 +0300, Ignat Semenov <ragnarokk91@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Hello Martin,
> > >
> > > Well, just figured out I'd need to build the whole MESA and Gallium
> > > just to get the EGL and GLES stuff. Now I can do that, and will do
> > > that, but that will take some time. (That's where the Core i7 will
> > > come handy =P finally)
> > >
> > > The Lanczos filter is available only in GLES, right? Don't see it
> > > working in the desktop GL version (presumably OpenGL 2.0, but not sure
> > > yet.)
> > >
> > > Re the (anti)aliasing in Coverswitch from 4.1, is it possible at all to
> > > solve that problem? This is something we can't do due to the
> > > hardware/drivers limitation on Linux or simply difficult per se? Sorry
> > > to bug you with this, there's more important stuff to do, I know, but
> > > still. Time/manpower required estimate? (I'm working now in proprietary
> > > software development so acquired this speak :))
> > >
> > > Will provide the backtrace for the KCM crash soon as well.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ignat Semenov
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">(Nvidia 7900GS with nouveau), without succes. I just had a black \
screen. Kwin didn't crash or anything. The screen was just black. When moving my \
mouse around the mouse pointer changed icons so there were definitly windows in the \
background.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Tonight i tried the same procedure on my laptop \
with an Nvidia 8400M, also running nouveau. The exact same thing happend. Black \
screen, no crash.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Now i come \
to think of it. I tried kwin --replace but didn't try to restart X with the new kwin. \
Could that be a problem?</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm using the Mesa packages from the ubuntu \
repositories. They're shipping 7.9.0. </p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">This is what KWin tells me on \
startup (almost the same on both machines)</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; \
font-size:medium; color:#181615;">OpenGL vendor string: \
nouveau</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">OpenGL renderer \
string: Gallium 0.4 on NV49</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; \
font-size:medium; color:#181615;">OpenGL version string: OpenGL ES \
2.0 Mesa 7.9-devel</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; \
color:#181615;">OpenGL shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES \
1.0.16</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Driver: \
Nouveau</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">GPU class: \
NV40/G70</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">OpenGL version: \
0.0</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">GLSL version: \
0.0</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Mesa version: \
7.9</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">X server version: \
1.9</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Linux kernel \
version: 2.6.35</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; \
font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Direct rendering: \
yes</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Requires strict \
binding: yes</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; \
color:#181615;">GLSL shaders: yes</span></p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" \
font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Limited GLSL support: \
yes</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Texture NPOT \
support: yes</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'monospace'; \
font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Limited NPOT support: \
no</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span \
style=" font-family:'monospace'; font-size:medium; color:#000000;">Desktop GL runs \
perfect though. Really feels more snappy. Good job!</span></p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" \
font-size:medium; color:#181615;">Greetings</span></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-size:medium; \
color:#181615;">Thomas Richard</span></p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Thursday 06 January 2011 \
06:42:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 23:50:38 Ignat Semenov \
wrote:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
Hello again :)</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Built it (Mesa) \
from source. 7.9.0 it seems. KWin runs! But then.. all I</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > get is this:</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > KWin KCM -> \
Enable Desktop Effects -> OpenGL -> Apply -> Accept</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Configuration \
Dialog -> OK -> (hit Accept configuration) -> this:</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > crash and no \
effects.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> I think it is caused by \
Qt pulling in desktop GL. I still don't understands</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> why it works on my system, I would have \
expected that it crashes due to Qt</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> pulling in desktop GL</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Otherwise works.</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Interesting thing \
is, that the *very* same crash appeared when I tried to</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > launch KWin-GLES \
against NVIDIA binary (forgot to rmmod it and reload X</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > server, well, I'm like this at nights \
=P). On the very KDE desktop start</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > it crashed and gave me the very same backtrace. \
Interesting, isn't it?</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > Mesa 7.9.0 (Source, installed in home directory along \
with the rest of</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
KDE using the awesome bash=profile script from Techbase and cmakekde</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > (for KDE) and \
Autotools with --prefix=/custom/prefix/ for Mesa)</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > nouveau from F14 stock, no soirce \
building here</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
KDE from source</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
Kwin-GLES latest checkout from your repo</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Qt 4.7.something (must be) Fedora repos \
stock</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
F14 stock</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
and 8800GTS 320 Mb</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > That's all my \
system, the relevant part of it.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > I'm free now to test it again and again, I hope. So feel \
free to ask me</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
;)</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Regards,</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Ignat Semenov</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > P.S. Subscribed to \
the list now, so no need to cross-post to Plasma, if</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 \
00:12:06 +0300, Ignat Semenov <ragnarokk91@gmail.com></p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > wrote:</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > Hello \
Martin,</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > \
> Well, just figured out I'd need to build the whole MESA and Gallium</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > just to get \
the EGL and GLES stuff. Now I can do that, and will do</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > that, but that will take some \
time. (That's where the Core i7 will</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > come handy =P finally)</p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > </p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > The Lanczos \
filter is available only in GLES, right? Don't see it</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > working in the desktop GL version \
(presumably OpenGL 2.0, but not sure</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > yet.)</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > </p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > Re the \
(anti)aliasing in Coverswitch from 4.1, is it possible at all to</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > solve that \
problem? This is something we can't do due to the</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > hardware/drivers limitation on \
Linux or simply difficult per se? Sorry</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > to bug you with this, there's more \
important stuff to do, I know, but</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > still. Time/manpower required estimate? (I'm \
working now in proprietary</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> > > software development so acquired this speak :))</p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > </p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > Will provide \
the backtrace for the KCM crash soon as well.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > Regards,</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > > Ignat \
Semenov</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p></body></html>
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