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List:       kstars-devel
Subject:    Re: Optimal Exposure and Noise Calculator
From:       Wolfgang Reissenberger <sterne-jaeger () openfuture ! de>
Date:       2023-03-04 17:33:53
Message-ID: CD06F688-42A1-4926-A6AF-2508D38C187C () openfuture ! de
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Joseph,
Welcome to the club! Just an idea: isn't this exposure calculator some kind of wizard \
for the exposure value on the Capture tab? It could be a simple button right of the \
exposure field opening a dialog for all the configuration stuff.

If you are familiar with Eclipse, the QtCreator isn't that difficult to understand. \
If you need support for setup, happy to help.

Cheers
Wolfgang
—
Wolfgang Reissenberger

www.sterne-jaeger.de
TSA-120 + FSQ-85 + epsilon-160 | Avalon Linear + M-zero | ASI 1600mm pro + 6200mm pro

> Am 04.03.2023 um 18:19 schrieb Jasem Mutlaq <mutlaqja@ikarustech.com>:
> 
> Hello Joseph,
> 
> You can use QtCreator which is easier for UI Qt designs. But you can use any IDE \
> you feel comfortable with. Is the sensor gain to read noise ratio something that \
> can be measured from FITS Viewer by perhaps capturing a few imagers with different \
> gains + exposure values? 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Jasem Mutlaq
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 8:01 PM joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net \
> <mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net> <joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net \
> <mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: Thank you Jasem,
> 
> I have not yet setup a dev environment for KStars; I normally use Eclipse, but I \
> will install one of the recommended IDEs. For most of the last 20 years of my \
> career I was developing middle tier code, no recent user interface work. So I'll \
> need to ramp back up on UI development.  A few folks have offered to mentor me on \
> integrating this into KStars.  So I'll get rolling on this shortly. 
> I did not realize that I could get SQM from Indi/Ekos, that solves a big concern \
> for me! 
> There is another dependency for the calculation. My code has a small reference \
> table that relates the imaging sensor gain value to a sensor read noise value. I've \
> only built one table so far; for my ZWO ASI-071. So I'll need to work on building \
> tables for other cameras, (but it might be better if I built a curve-fitted \
> functions for this because the tables limit the gain selection to specific values). \
>  
> Would you happen to have list of the most commonly used cameras?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/4/23 00:12, Jasem Mutlaq wrote:
> > Hello Joseph,
> > 
> > This would be an *outstanding* feature to add to KStars! Thank you for working on \
> > it. It would require an interface and also proper integration with the rest of \
> > KStars & INDI infrastructure, for example, the filters used..etc. 
> > Would this be better suited for FITS Viewer integration? 
> > 
> > SQM & F-Ratios can be retrieved from INDI/Ekos, we probably need to add a field \
> > for the filter band-pass in the equipment manager. 
> > Do you have a development environment ready as per the instructions in KStars \
> > Gitlab? https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars \
> > <https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars> 
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Jasem Mutlaq
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 8:16 PM joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net \
> > <mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net> <joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net \
> > <mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: Hi All,
> > 
> > I'm a retired software developer (mostly Java, C, and some C++).  I've been using \
> > KStars on a Raspberry Pi (Ubuntu), since I got interested in AP, (around 2020).  \
> > Back in late 2021 I wrote an optimal exposure time calculator (in Java), based on \
> > the work of Dr Glover.  I just got to thinking that it might be a nice addition \
> > to KStars, and today I found a request for it:  \
> > https://indilib.org/forum/wish-list/5300-exposure-calulator.html?start=12 \
> > <https://indilib.org/forum/wish-list/5300-exposure-calulator.html?start=12> My \
> > current code is pretty simple but has no user interface.  It uses a few classes \
> > for configuration, a table of sensor gain to read noise, observation site \
> > location SQM value, optics F ratio data, and (experimentally) a filter bandpass \
> > table.  The code just iterates through all the combinations of the inputs to \
> > output tab delimited data to the console, that I copy into a spreadsheet. 
> > Keep in mind that the exposure time calculations are optimal (per Dr Glover), but \
> > not necessarily practical.  I've seen a slow optic, with a filter, in very dark \
> > skies,  produce a optimal sub exposure time calculation that exceeded 3 hours. 
> > If this were integrated into KStars, we would obviously need to provide a means \
> > for a user to input some of their own configuration information. 
> > Please let me know if you'd like to consider integrating this into KStars, (I \
> > would need coaching/help if I were to take this on).  
> > Example output:
> > 
> > I have my code configured for the read noise for my main imaging camera, (a ZWO \
> > ASI-071 Color), SQM data for four observation sites.  F ratios for four optics, \
> > and bandpass info for two filters.  And I'm using an allowable noise increase of \
> > 5%. 
> > A small section of the output provides this information for a given site, optic, \
> > and sensor gain selection: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Site Name:
> > 
> > Chuchupate
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sky Quality:
> > 
> > 21.65
> > 
> > magnitude per arc-second2
> > 
> > Light Pollution Base Rate:
> > 
> > 19.6
> > 
> > e per second
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Optic Name:
> > 
> > Esprit 100
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Light Pollution Rate:
> > 
> > 0.65
> > 
> > e per second for f/5.5 optic
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Camera Sensor Gain:
> > 
> > 50
> > 
> > Read Noise:
> > 
> > 2.78
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Filter
> > 
> > Optimal Sub-exposure (sec)
> > 
> > Shot pollution electrons
> > 
> > Exposure shot noise
> > 
> > Exposure total noise
> > 
> > No Filter
> > 
> > 349.1
> > 
> > 226.2
> > 
> > 15
> > 
> > 15.3
> > 
> > Optolong l-Pro
> > 
> > 634.8
> > 
> > 411.3
> > 
> > 20.3
> > 
> > 20.5
> > 
> > Optolong l-Enhance
> > 
> > 3174
> > 
> > 2056.3
> > 
> > 45.3
> > 
> > 45.4
> > 
> > 
> > And accumulated data for imaging sessions of 1 to 5 hours:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 3,600.00 seconds
> > 
> > 7,200.00 seconds
> > 
> > 10,800.00 seconds
> > 
> > 14,400.00 seconds
> > 
> > 18,000.00 seconds
> > 
> > Filter
> > 
> > Exposure Count
> > 
> > Stack Total Time
> > 
> > Stack total noise
> > 
> > Exposure Count
> > 
> > Stack Total Time
> > 
> > Stack total noise
> > 
> > Exposure Count
> > 
> > Stack Total Time
> > 
> > Stack total noise
> > 
> > Exposure Count
> > 
> > Stack Total Time
> > 
> > Stack total noise
> > 
> > Exposure Count
> > 
> > Stack Total Time
> > 
> > Stack total noise
> > 
> > No Filter
> > 
> > 10
> > 
> > 3491.44
> > 
> > 48.37
> > 
> > 21
> > 
> > 7332.03
> > 
> > 70.09
> > 
> > 31
> > 
> > 10823.47
> > 
> > 85.16
> > 
> > 41
> > 
> > 14314.92
> > 
> > 97.93
> > 
> > 52
> > 
> > 18155.51
> > 
> > 110.29
> > 
> > Optolong l-Pro
> > 
> > 6
> > 
> > 3808.85
> > 
> > 50.14
> > 
> > 11
> > 
> > 6982.89
> > 
> > 67.89
> > 
> > 17
> > 
> > 10791.73
> > 
> > 84.4
> > 
> > 23
> > 
> > 14600.58
> > 
> > 98.17
> > 
> > 28
> > 
> > 17774.62
> > 
> > 108.31
> > 
> > Optolong l-Enhance
> > 
> > 1
> > 
> > 3174.04
> > 
> > 45.43
> > 
> > 2
> > 
> > 6348.08
> > 
> > 64.25
> > 
> > 3
> > 
> > 9522.12
> > 
> > 78.69
> > 
> > 5
> > 
> > 15870.2
> > 
> > 101.59
> > 
> > 6
> > 
> > 19044.24
> > 
> > 111.29
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 


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Just an idea: isn't this exposure calculator some kind of wizard for the exposure \
value on the Capture tab? It could be a simple button right of the exposure field \
opening a dialog for all the configuration stuff.</div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="">If you are familiar with Eclipse, the QtCreator isn't \
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class="">www.sterne-jaeger.de</a><br class="">TSA-120 + FSQ-85 + epsilon-160 | Avalon \
Linear + M-zero | ASI 1600mm pro + 6200mm pro</div></div></div></div></div> </div>
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 04.03.2023 um \
18:19 schrieb Jasem Mutlaq &lt;<a href="mailto:mutlaqja@ikarustech.com" \
class="">mutlaqja@ikarustech.com</a>&gt;:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello \
Joseph,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can use QtCreator which is \
easier for UI Qt designs. But you can use any IDE you feel comfortable with. Is the \
sensor gain to read noise ratio something that can be measured from FITS Viewer by \
perhaps capturing a few imagers with different gains&nbsp;+ exposure \
values?</div><div class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div \
class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">--</div><div class="">Best Regards,<br \
class="">Jasem Mutlaq<br class=""></div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br \
class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 4, \
2023 at 8:01 PM <a href="mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net" \
class="">joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net</a> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net" class="">joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">  
    
  
  <div class=""><p class="">Thank you Jasem,</p><p class="">I have not yet setup a \
dev environment for KStars; I normally use  Eclipse, but I will install one of the \
recommended IDEs. For most  of the last 20 years of my career I was developing middle \
tier  code, no recent user interface work. So I'll need to ramp back up
      on UI development.&nbsp; A few folks have offered to mentor me on
      integrating this into KStars.&nbsp; So I'll get rolling on this
      shortly.</p><p class="">I did not realize that I could get SQM from Indi/Ekos, \
that  solves a big concern for me!<br class="">
    </p><p class="">There is another dependency for the calculation. My code has a
      small reference table that relates the imaging sensor gain value
      to a sensor read noise value. I've only built one table so far;
      for my ZWO ASI-071. So I'll need to work on building tables for
      other cameras, (but it might be better if I built a curve-fitted
      functions for this because the tables limit the gain selection to
      specific values).&nbsp;&nbsp; <br class="">
    </p><p class="">Would you happen to have list of the most commonly used \
cameras?<br class="">  </p><p class=""><br class="">
    </p><p class=""><br class="">
    </p>
    <div class="">On 3/4/23 00:12, Jasem Mutlaq wrote:<br class="">
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" class="">
      
      <div dir="ltr" class="">Hello Joseph,
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">This would be an *outstanding* feature to add to KStars!
          Thank you for working on it. It would require an interface and
          also proper integration&nbsp;with the rest of KStars &amp; INDI
          infrastructure, for example, the filters used..etc.</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">Would this be better suited for FITS Viewer \
integration?&nbsp;</div>  <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">SQM &amp; F-Ratios can be retrieved from INDI/Ekos, we
          probably need to add a field for the filter band-pass in the
          equipment manager.</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">Do you have a development environment ready as per the
          instructions in KStars Gitlab?&nbsp;<a \
href="https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars" target="_blank" \
class="">https://invent.kde.org/education/kstars</a></div>  <div class=""><br \
clear="all" class="">  <div class="">
            <div dir="ltr" class="">
              <div dir="ltr" class="">
                <div class="">
                  <div dir="ltr" class="">
                    <div class="">--</div>
                    <div class="">Best Regards,<br class="">
                      Jasem Mutlaq<br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br class="">
        </div>
      </div>
      <br class="">
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 8:16 PM
          <a href="mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" \
                class="">joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net</a>
          &lt;<a href="mailto:joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" \
class="">joseph.mcgee@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;  wrote:<br class="">
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div class=""><p class="">Hi All,</p><p class="">I'm a retired software \
developer (mostly Java, C, and  some C++).&nbsp; I've been using KStars on a \
Raspberry Pi  (Ubuntu), since I got interested in AP, (around 2020).&nbsp;
              Back in late 2021 I wrote an optimal exposure time
              calculator (in Java), based on the work of Dr Glover.&nbsp; I
              just got to thinking that it might be a nice addition to
              KStars, and today I found a request for it:&nbsp;
              <a href="https://indilib.org/forum/wish-list/5300-exposure-calulator.html?start=12" \
target="_blank" class="">https://indilib.org/forum/wish-list/5300-exposure-calulator.html?start=12</a></p><p \
class="">My current code is pretty simple but has no user  interface.&nbsp; It uses a \
few classes for configuration, a  table of sensor gain to read noise, observation \
site  location SQM value, optics F ratio data, and
              (experimentally) a filter bandpass table.&nbsp; The code just
              iterates through all the combinations of the inputs to
              output tab delimited data to the console, that I copy into
              a spreadsheet.</p><p class="">Keep in mind that the exposure time \
                calculations are
              optimal (per Dr Glover), but not necessarily practical.&nbsp;
              I've seen a slow optic, with a filter, in very dark
              skies,&nbsp; produce a optimal sub exposure time calculation
              that exceeded 3 hours.<br class="">
            </p><p class="">If this were integrated into KStars, we would obviously
              need to provide a means for a user to input some of their
              own configuration information.<br class="">
            </p><p class="">Please let me know if you'd like to consider integrating
              this into KStars, (I would need coaching/help if I were to
              take this on). <br class="">
            </p><p class="">Example output:<br class="">
            </p><p class="">I have my code configured for the read noise for my main
              imaging camera, (a ZWO ASI-071 Color), SQM data for four
              observation sites.&nbsp; F ratios for four optics, and bandpass
              info for two filters.&nbsp; And I'm using an allowable noise
              increase of 5%.<br class="">
            </p><p class="">A small section of the output provides this information
              for a given site, optic, and sensor gain selection:<br class="">
            </p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
            <br class="">
            <table width="635" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" class="">
              <colgroup class=""><col width="192" class=""> <col width="140" \
class=""> <col width="291" class=""> </colgroup><tbody class="">  <tr valign="bottom" \
                class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="192" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="140" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="291" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="192" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Site Name:</b></font></font></p>  \
</td>  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="140" class=""><p align="center" \
class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1" \
class="">Chuchupate</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="291" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="192" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Sky \
Quality:</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="140" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">21.65</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="291" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" \
size="1" class="">magnitude per  arc-second2</font></font></p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="192" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Light  Pollution Base \
Rate:</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="140" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">19.6</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="291" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" \
size="1" class="">e per second</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="192" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="140" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="291" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table><p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0in" class=""><br \
class="">  </p>
            <br class="">
            <table width="631" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" class="">
              <colgroup class=""><col width="190" class=""> <col width="197" \
class=""> <col width="232" class=""> </colgroup><tbody class="">  <tr valign="bottom" \
class="">  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="190" height="13" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" \
size="1" class=""><b class="">Optic Name:</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="197" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">Esprit 100</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="232" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""><br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="190" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Light  Pollution \
Rate:</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="197" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">0.65</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="232" class=""><p \
align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" \
size="1" class="">e per second  for f/5.5 optic</font></font></p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table><p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0in" class=""><br \
class="">  </p>
            <br class="">
            <table width="438" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" class="">
              <colgroup class=""><col width="199" class=""> <col width="232" \
class=""> </colgroup><tbody class="">  <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="199" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Camera  Sensor \
Gain:</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="232" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">50</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="199" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Read Noise:</b></font></font></p> \
</td>  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="232" class=""><p align="center" \
class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1" \
class="">2.78</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table><p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0in" class=""><br \
class="">  </p>
            <br class="">
            <table width="986" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" class="">
              <colgroup class=""><col width="234" class=""> <col width="213" \
class=""> <col width="184" class=""> <col width="165" class=""> <col width="170" \
class=""> </colgroup><tbody class="">  <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="234" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Filter</b></font></font></p>  \
</td>  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="213" class=""><p align="center" \
class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1" \
class=""><b class="">Optimal  Sub-exposure (sec)</b></font></font></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="184" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Shot  pollution \
electrons</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="165" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  shot \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="170" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  total \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="234" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">No Filter</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="213" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">349.1</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="184" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">226.2</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="165" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">15</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="170" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">15.3</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="234" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">Optolong l-Pro</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="213" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">634.8</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="184" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">411.3</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="165" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">20.3</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="170" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">20.5</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="234" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">Optolong  l-Enhance</font></font></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="213" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">3174</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="184" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">2056.3</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="165" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">45.3</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="170" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">45.4</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table>
            <br class=""><p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0in" class=""><font \
                face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1" \
                class="">And
                  accumulated data for imaging sessions of 1 to 5 \
hours:</font></font></p><p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0in" class=""><br \
class="">  </p>
            <table width="2107" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" class="">
              <colgroup class=""><col width="139" class=""> <col width="123" \
class=""> <col width="123" class=""> <col width="130" class=""> <col width="123" \
class=""> <col width="123" class=""> <col width="130" class=""> <col width="130" \
class=""> <col width="123" class=""> <col width="130" class=""> <col width="130" \
class=""> <col width="123" class=""> <col width="130" class=""> <col width="130" \
class=""> <col width="123" class=""> <col width="130" class=""> </colgroup><tbody \
class="">  <tr class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="139" valign="bottom" \
height="13" class=""><p align="center" class=""> <br class="">  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="3" style="border:none;padding:0in" width="384" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">3,600.00  \
seconds</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td colspan="3" style="border:none;padding:0in" width="384" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">7,200.00  \
seconds</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td colspan="3" style="border:none;padding:0in" width="392" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">10,800.00  \
seconds</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td colspan="3" style="border:none;padding:0in" width="391" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">14,400.00  \
seconds</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td colspan="3" style="border:none;padding:0in" width="392" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">18,000.00  \
seconds</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="139" height="13" \
class=""><p align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Filter</b></font></font></p>  \
</td>  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p align="center" \
class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font style="font-size:8pt" size="1" \
class=""><b class="">Exposure  Count</b></font></font></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack Total  \
Time</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack total  \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  \
Count</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack Total  \
Time</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack total  \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  \
Count</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack Total  \
Time</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack total  \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  \
Count</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack Total  \
Time</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack total  \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Exposure  \
Count</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack Total  \
Time</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class=""><b class="">Stack total  \
noise</b></font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="139" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">No Filter</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">10</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">3491.44</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">48.37</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">21</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">7332.03</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">70.09</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">31</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">10823.47</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">85.16</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">41</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">14314.92</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">97.93</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">52</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">18155.51</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">110.29</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="139" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">Optolong l-Pro</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">6</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">3808.85</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">50.14</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">11</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">6982.89</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">67.89</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">17</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">10791.73</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">84.4</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">23</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">14600.58</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">98.17</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">28</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">17774.62</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">108.31</font></font></p>  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr valign="bottom" class="">
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="139" height="13" \
class=""><p align="left" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">Optolong  l-Enhance</font></font></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">1</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">3174.04</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">45.43</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">2</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">6348.08</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">64.25</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">3</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">9522.12</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">78.69</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">5</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">15870.2</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">101.59</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">6</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="123" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">19044.24</font></font></p>  </td>
                  <td style="border:none;padding:0in" width="130" class=""><p \
align="center" class=""> <font face="Andale Mono" class=""><font \
style="font-size:8pt" size="1" class="">111.29</font></font></p>  </td>
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