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Subject: Re: Moving KDE Telepathy to kdenetwork
From: Scott Lerman <smlerman () gmail ! com>
Date: 2015-02-20 0:49:59
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> As was said in the main thread already, KDE Telepathy does not try to be
> swiss army knife and doitall, we also don't want to copy all features of
> Kopete
> (what would be the point of that :) We also prefer to keep the amount of
> options
> to be as minimal as possible.
>
I could be wrong, but I think this discussion started with the idea of
retiring Kopete completely, in which case it would be nice to have KDE
Telepathy be as close as to matching Kopete's features as is reasonable.
As far as keeping the number of options minimal, my issue with that is that
the reason I like KDE so much more than other desktops is that it's
configurable. At this point, KDE seems to be the only desktop that doesn't
enforce The One True Way to do everything, and I would hate to see the
ability to configure KDE applications go away.
> >
>> > Manual sorting of groups in the contact list
>> > Disable automatic resizing of text entry area
>> > Disable sound notifications when away (ideally only with an explicit
>> away
>> > setting and not idle/auto-away)
>>
>
> These^ all fall into the category of what I wrote above. Maybe the last one
> could be done, if someones finds the time (manpower is scarce).
>
>
The reason I like manual sorting of groups is that it lets me put my Google
contacts at the top of the list and my Facebook contacts at the bottom.
Maybe I'm the only person that wants to do that, so I assume I can fake it
with putting underscores at the beginning of the names.
If the time to learn the code isn't too bad, I'd be happy to try to help
implement stuff. I haven't done much C++ since college, and I've never
really done anything with Qt or KDE, but if it's worth the trouble I'm sure
I'd cause, I can give it a shot.
> > No system tray icon when there's a new message from a contact with an
>> open
>> > chat window
>>
>
> Yes, well, there should be blinking taskbar entry, no reason to blink at
> two places
> really :)
>
>
Yeah, I know, but for some weird reason I always found the spinning Kopete
icon easier to notice than the blinking taskbar entry. I can keep dreaming,
though, right?
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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 19, \
2015 at 5:49 PM, Martin Klapetek <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:martin.klapetek@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">martin.klapetek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote">Hey,</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><span class=""></span><div>As was said in the main thread \
already, KDE Telepathy does not try to be</div><div>swiss army knife and doitall, we \
also don't want to copy all features of Kopete</div><div>(what would be the point \
of that :) We also prefer to keep the amount of options</div><div>to be as minimal as \
possible.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I could be wrong, \
but I think this discussion started with the idea of retiring Kopete completely, in \
which case it would be nice to have KDE Telepathy be as close as to matching \
Kopete's features as is reasonable.<br><br></div><div>As far as keeping the \
number of options minimal, my issue with that is that the reason I like KDE so much \
more than other desktops is that it's configurable. At this point, KDE seems to \
be the only desktop that doesn't enforce The One True Way to do everything, and I \
would hate to see the ability to configure KDE applications go away.<br></div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px \
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">><br>
> Manual sorting of groups in the contact list<br>
> Disable automatic resizing of text entry area<br>
> Disable sound notifications when away (ideally only with an explicit away<br>
> setting and not \
idle/auto-away)<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>These^ all fall into the \
category of what I wrote above. Maybe the last one</div><div>could be done, if \
someones finds the time (manpower is scarce).</div><span class=""><div> \
</div></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The reason I like \
manual sorting of groups is that it lets me put my Google contacts at the top of the \
list and my Facebook contacts at the bottom. Maybe I'm the only person that wants \
to do that, so I assume I can fake it with putting underscores at the beginning of \
the names.<br><br></div><div>If the time to learn the code isn't too bad, I'd \
be happy to try to help implement stuff. I haven't done much C++ since college, \
and I've never really done anything with Qt or KDE, but if it's worth the \
trouble I'm sure I'd cause, I can give it a shot.<br></div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px \
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
> No system tray icon when there's a new message from a contact with an \
open<br> > chat window<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Yes, well, there \
should be blinking taskbar entry, no reason to blink at two places</div><div>really \
:)</div><span class=""><div> \
</div></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah, I know, but for \
some weird reason I always found the spinning Kopete icon easier to notice than the \
blinking taskbar entry. I can keep dreaming, though, \
right?<br></div></div><br></div></div>
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