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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    Re: Kopete hacking
From:       Benson Tsai <btsai () vrwarp ! com>
Date:       2010-07-22 16:34:43
Message-ID: AANLkTimrSLFqEs_c8HUOSH5uTvPcoXZD_xZ2uA7egelL () mail ! gmail ! com
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That is because your concept of identity is wrong. As far as I know,
the identity is suppose to represent exactly what the word means,
which is, "condition  or  character  as  to  who  a  person  or  what
a  thing  is" (dictionary.com). While you can state that sure, you and
you're friend are different characters thus need different identities,
Kopete wasn't designed to allow for that kind of work flow. Instead it
was meant for _you_ to use.

The idea is that a person may have multiple online "identities". They
may have a work identity, a WoW identity, and a friend/family
identity. With each identity, a set of IM accounts are associated.
Furthermore, every single IM account associated with the identity
should try to match the Identity's information as best as possible
(icon, name, nickname, etc), unless explicitly overrided by the user.
That means that for most people, they probably only have one identity,
and thus there is an option to show protocols directly on the bottom
toolbar instead of identities.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:02,  <dantti85-dev@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
>> I like the idea of making the user interface simpler, however I don't think
>> this mockup brings Kopete to a more usable state:
>
>> - Identity is a very complex term that most people just don't get in
>> combination with the accounts concepts
>> - The original Kopete idea was to hide the protocols as much
>> as possible, and those tabs just make the whole thing much more
>> visible
>
>
> I understand the hide part, but on the other hand you will never
> free user from the need to know which protocol they are using.
> why?
> You want to add foo@hotmail.com you need to know to which
> msn account you want to add it...
>
> So the account setup as Markus said is also one of the parts
> where users find it hard to understand, by having tabs
> you can just add a new tab which will become a add new account
> and that's done.
>
> About the identity stuff i find it very complex to understand because
> to me the idea is wrong. Why would I want to add a new Identity if
> I can chose a picture to each protocol (I should at least),
> a nick to each protocol ...?
> Now when I tried to understand the concept I saw that to me (I MIGHT be wrong)
> if was a workaround to seting up nicks and pics which does not make
> any sense to me.
>
> To me an identity is like a friend in your house that want to use your
> computer to chat with some friends, or a family member that will
> be gone in 2 days. You don't want to setup a new computer
> account for him so you add a friend identity with his protocols
> and when using the pc he click on his tabs and see only his contacts
> and his accounts.
>
>
>
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