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List:       kopete-devel
Subject:    Re: Kopete hacking
From:       Benson Tsai <btsai () vrwarp ! com>
Date:       2010-07-22 0:42:48
Message-ID: AANLkTik5rsHlwGVQzicF-_PckprfH-pAhaA75cPzYLdP () mail ! gmail ! com
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To be honest, the screen shot looks like a way big step backwards.
Plus it totally looks.. inspired by the current version msn:
http://tinyurl.com/msncontactlist . If you're looking in that
direction for UI inspirations, then if you look at live messenger wave
4 (http://tinyurl.com/msnwave4), you will notice that they have done
away with that vertical bar. The vertical bar not only looks ugly but
for your use, wastes a lot of space in general.

The idea of filtering by account is nice but I think it might make
more sense just to look into the idea of having multiple views for the
contact list. Views being anything from simply a filtered view to
something more fancy like a list of contacts that you talk to more
often. What is cool is that since the contact list already uses a
model-view design, each view can probably be implemented as a fancy
proxy between the model and view.

By "remove" menu, I hope you mean hide it by default. I think there
might be some issue with kopete not remembering to keep the menu
hidden across sessions but that shouldn't be hard to fix if it were
the case.

All in all, I feel like how my contact list is currently set up a far
cleaner and space efficient than what you're proposing. Here is a
screenshot: http://tinyurl.com/mykopete

--Benson Tsai


On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:55,  <dantti85-dev@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
> > De: Raphael Kubo da Costa <kubito@gmail.com>
> > Committing directly to trunk probably means you'll already have a completely
> > functional new UI for everything for the SC 4.6 release.
> 
> > It'd be nice if you could post some screenshots of the main changes you intend
> > to make. Posting review requests via ReviewBoard would also be good.
> 
> the contact list is the first thing I want to change.
> - it's not nice to know if your account's are online (jabber keeps disconnecting \
>                 me, and it do not reconnect)
> - the vertical space is _very_ important to avoid scrollbars that's why i removed \
> the file menu bar and I want to remove the "status" bar too.
> - I'd like to make the contact list transparent with a blur effect (no idea how \
>                 hard is it).
> - the left tabs are your accounts, if you have more identities a
> tab is show on top for each identity.
> Additionally the first tab of accounts and identity would merge it all
> this has 2 benefits:
> * you can filter contacts by account
> * you can see if it's online or not
> - the user image is going to be a "plasmoid" or whatever is called the image
> shown when you change your wallpaper. (users love beautiful interfaces)
> - at the bottom of the left tab I'll add the application menu
> - at the top of the left tabbar i'm thinking of adding a menu to add/rm contacts
> and create a new account, which is another thing that i don't like today
> imo it should hide the contact list and show a connect like amsn or MSN...
> with a list of protocols to choose and a way to "Quick connect" (for those moments,
> when a friend or a family member want's to chat using you pc.
> 
> there are too many menus that are redundant, you can do one thing is several
> diferent places which make the menus huge and hard to read.
> The contacts list has it's "problems" too, but we didn't find out something
> really good to start the change.
> 
> http://img707.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktope28894.jpg
> 
> Best,
> Daniel.
> 
> 
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