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Subject: Re: [Konsole-devel] [RFC] Remove the --background-mode feature.
From: Kurt Hindenburg <kurt.hindenburg () gmail ! com>
Date: 2012-11-20 16:12:05
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On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jekyll Wu <adaptee@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would propose removing the --background-mode feature from konsole,
> because it was and is still a very hacky and immature feature even after it
> has been added for 4 years.
>
> Its problems:
>
> 1. it only works for the very first window. The global shortcut only
> toggles the visibility of the very first window.
>
> 2. it doesn't remember and restore the position of the first window
>
> 3, it has never been further polished or developed after it was added.
>
>
> Another strong proof is there are only 2 related reports about that option
> on bugs.kde.org :
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.**cgi?id=258850<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258850>
>
> it is for a strange and unreproduciable startup warning message, not
> directly related with this --background-mode feature itself.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.**cgi?id=94348<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94348>
>
> That is why this --background-mode option was introduced. See comment #3.
>
> A feature receiving almost zero bug reports is either perfect, or is
> something nobody uses . Based upon my above observation of its problems, I
> really think the latter explanation looks more convincing.
>
> All in all, I feel that option is more like a trick or demonstration of
> "we can also do what yakuake does. well, kind of", other than a
> well-designed and mature feature. Although I have not got any statistics, I
> really doubt how many users really like, use or even know about that
> feature.
>
> Hi, I would tend to agree. It is fine with me to remove when master is
un-frozen.
Thanks
Kurt
> Any idea ?
>
> Regards
> Jekyll
>
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class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jekyll Wu <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adaptee@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">adaptee@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">I would propose removing the --background-mode feature from \
konsole, because it was and is still a very hacky and immature feature even after it \
has been added for 4 years.<br>
<br>
Its problems:<br>
<br>
1. it only works for the very first window. The global shortcut only toggles the \
visibility of the very first window.<br> <br>
2. it doesn't remember and restore the position of the first window<br>
<br>
3, it has never been further polished or developed after it was added.<br>
<br>
<br>
Another strong proof is there are only 2 related reports about that option on <a \
href="http://bugs.kde.org" target="_blank">bugs.kde.org</a> :<br> <br>
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258850" \
target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.<u></u>cgi?id=258850</a><br> <br>
it is for a strange and unreproduciable startup warning message, not directly related \
with this --background-mode feature itself.<br> <br>
<a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94348" \
target="_blank">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.<u></u>cgi?id=94348</a><br> <br>
That is why this --background-mode option was introduced. See comment #3.<br>
<br>
A feature receiving almost zero bug reports is either perfect, or is something nobody \
uses . Based upon my above observation of its problems, I really think the latter \
explanation looks more convincing.<br> <br>
All in all, I feel that option is more like a trick or demonstration of "we \
can also do what yakuake does. well, kind of", other than a well-designed and \
mature feature. Although I have not got any statistics, I really doubt how many users \
really like, use or even know about that feature.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Hi, I would tend to agree. It is fine with me to remove when \
master is un-frozen.</div><div> Thanks</div><div> Kurt</div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">
Any idea ?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Jekyll<br>
<br>
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