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On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jekyll Wu <adaptee@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would propose removing the --background-mode feature from konsole,
> because it was and is still a very hacky and immature feature even after it
> has been added for 4 years.
>
> Its problems:
>
> 1. it only works for the very first window. The global shortcut only
> toggles the visibility of the very first window.
>
> 2. it doesn't remember and restore the position of the first window
>
> 3, it has never been further polished or developed after it was added.
>
>
> Another strong proof is there are only 2 related reports about that option
> on bugs.kde.org :
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.**cgi?id=258850<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258850>
>
> it is for a strange and unreproduciable startup warning message, not
> directly related with this --background-mode feature itself.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.**cgi?id=94348<https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94348>
>
> That is why this --background-mode option was introduced. See comment #3.
>
> A feature receiving almost zero bug reports is either perfect, or is
> something nobody uses .  Based upon my above observation of its problems, I
> really think the latter explanation looks more convincing.
>
> All in all, I feel that option is more like a trick or demonstration of
>  "we can also do what yakuake does. well, kind of", other than a
> well-designed and mature feature. Although I have not got any statistics, I
> really doubt how many users really like, use or even know about that
> feature.
>
> Hi, I would tend to agree.  It is fine with me to remove when master is
un-frozen.
  Thanks
       Kurt


> Any idea ?
>
> Regards
> Jekyll
>
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<font size=3D"4"><font face=3D"georgia,serif"><br></font></font><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jekyll Wu <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adaptee@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">adaptee=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would propose removing the --background-mo=
de feature from konsole, because it was and is still a very hacky and immat=
ure feature even after it has been added for 4 years.<br>


<br>
Its problems:<br>
<br>
1. it only works for the very first window. The global shortcut only toggle=
s the visibility of the very first window.<br>
<br>
2. it doesn&#39;t remember and restore the position of the first window<br>
<br>
3, it has never been further polished or developed after it was added.<br>
<br>
<br>
Another strong proof is there are only 2 related reports about that option =
on <a href=3D"http://bugs.kde.org" target=3D"_blank">bugs.kde.org</a> :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D258850" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.<u></u>cgi?id=3D258850</a><br>
<br>
it is for a strange and unreproduciable startup warning message, not direct=
ly related with this --background-mode feature itself.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D94348" target=3D"_blank">=
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.<u></u>cgi?id=3D94348</a><br>
<br>
That is why this --background-mode option was introduced. See comment #3.<b=
r>
<br>
A feature receiving almost zero bug reports is either perfect, or is someth=
ing nobody uses . =C2=A0Based upon my above observation of its problems, I =
really think the latter explanation looks more convincing.<br>
<br>
All in all, I feel that option is more like a trick or demonstration of =C2=
=A0&quot;we can also do what yakuake does. well, kind of&quot;, other than =
a well-designed and mature feature. Although I have not got any statistics,=
 I really doubt how many users really like, use or even know about that fea=
ture.<br>


<br></blockquote><div>Hi, I would tend to agree. =C2=A0It is fine with me t=
o remove when master is un-frozen.</div><div>=C2=A0 Thanks</div><div>=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Kurt</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">


Any idea ?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Jekyll<br>
<br>
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