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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: KWord status
From:       Marko Samastur <markos () elite ! org>
Date:       2001-02-11 18:09:08
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On sobota 10. februar 2001 22:24, Nicolas GOUTTE wrote:
>
> In the meantime, I think too that the least thing KWord needs now is
> a new file format. By the way, XHTML+CSS2 cannot help much, as they
> are not covering many parts of KWord (e.g. text columns or
> integrating other KParts).

I agree with this point. One of the things I'd like to do, but haven't 
started because I was unexpectedly called to do my civil service couple 
of months ago, is an openoffice import and export filter. But more I 
think about it, more it seems wiser to just adopt the damn thing.

Is there any special reason against that now?

> With every new extension of KWord's <FORMAT> tag, you would break
> existing filters!

I disagree or at least I'm not able to see why is that. I do agree that 
it would break badly written filters, but a good one should just ignore 
what it doesn't understand in any case.

> >> 2. External style sheets
> >> Personnaly I dislike to take out the style sheet from the
> >> document. I understand why HTML/XHTML does it but I do not
> >> understand why KWord
.....
> I have thought that template files were made for this. Additionaly
> the formatting can always be changed paragraph by paragraph,
> character by character if it is forbidden to change the styles.

No. External style sheets were made at least for two reasons. First one 
is to more easily apply same style on different documents or even force 
it when it's needed.

The other one is to make document (content) management easier, because 
it divides content from its representation. This makes it easier to 
transform it, when needed, in the way you want.

Implemented correctly can make much easier to offer the same content in 
print, on web, over phone...

Personally, I fail to see the good side of internal style sheets 
because you already are using tar files for things like pictures, but I 
can easily see the good side of it.

> >info in a markup-independent style. And format it the way you want
> > at
>
> publishing
>
> >time, but thats in the far future..

No. For many this far future is now. Btw, this is THE reason why 
Microsoft Office is starting to use XML for its files.

> I start to understand the reason. It is the same reason, why HTML in
> general prefers external style sheets.

Yes.

> May be there should be a tool in KWord to take style sheets from a
> document and to copy it to another. MS Word 97 has such a function
> where you can copy style sheets from the document to its template or
> vice-versa. For KWord, I suggest that such a tool should work also
> between two documents.

Obviously (to me) this solves only my first stated reason for external 
style sheets and not the second one.

If you have external style sheets, you don't need such a tool. You just 
have to copy style sheet files.

Kind regards,

	Marko
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