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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: Krayon & KIllustrator
From:       John Califf <jcaliff () compuzone ! net>
Date:       2000-11-20 20:51:14
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Lennart Kudling wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i had no chance to check out John's (surely) great work, yet. But i had 2
> short ideas, which i'd like to share.
> 
> 1) Adobe Photshop and Illustrator are great pieces of software and they
> interoperate very well. The only thing i could critisize (at least the 1
> year old incarnations of them) is, the similar but different gui-look and
> -behaviour. Therfore i would recommend, that KIllu and Krayon should look
> and feel very much the same. Most important example is the
> "color-pick-widget" (?). The Corel Draw ansatz of KIllu suc^H^H^H isnt
> very convinient. Such things should be shared or be the very similar in
> both apps.
> 
> 2) I had an idea for name to replace the awkward and wannabe
> "KIllustrator": it's "Kurve". No it's not german.
> 
> (Because of time constraints i'm only able to explore and have ideas at
> the moment. I hope to get my hands dirty in 2-3 months.)
> 
> What do you think ? Are there any plans about that even ?
> 
> --

I don't know how to reply to this.  You are right that Krayon and
Killustrator should share as much as possible.  Killustrator is the more
mature app, and perhaps Krayon should use code from killustrator where
possible.  However, colors are handled very differently in the two apps
because one primarily concerns shapes and the other pixels.  Krayon MUST
use the full 32 bit color, at least, or gray.  Not so with Killustrator.
Killustrator really can't use Krayon's color but they can use the same
Kde standard color requestor, which Krayon already uses in addition to
its custom one. I'd assume Killustrator uses the standard kde color
requestor, and can check again.  

Most importantly, Koffice apps should be compatible with each other. Not
necessarily look like Adobe photoshop.  The fact that Adobe and
Killustrator work together in most ways is great, but the goal is to
have what we need in KOffice, without having to use proprietary apps.

There is no way for me to test Adobe photoshop as I don't have the hard
disk space to reinstall Windows.  At best, I can compare with Gimp. 
Someone else who does have better equipment than I do and has all these
apps installed can make suggestions.  I only have 2.5 gig hard drive. 
Hard to believe... Surprisingly, I'v managed to make room for what I
need for now.

Please try the current version of Krayon when you have time.  It's not
great yet, but will be, especially with help if you want to get your
hands dirty.  Kurve is a catchy name.  This is up to the Killustrator
developer and making name changes also involves documentation and
translation headaches, though.  I've yet to change "kimageshop" to
"krayon" everywhere yet.

John
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