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Subject: Re: thoughts from community member on a split
From: Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-10-28 11:02:23
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andrij Zinchenko <
andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/10/28 Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp@gmail.com>:
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Andrij Zinchenko
> > <andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, I understand many things. I may concede that there is a need for a
> >> "clean break". But you can not any longer try to keep it secret from
> >> community without seriously hurting it. Develop a message for the
> >> community and show the clear way of keeping with it! If you need such
> >> a message, I can help with that - I am PR guy anyway.
> >
> > We are not keeping it secret as this is a public mailinglist anyway. It
> > still needs some days until the terms of the split are decided (names,
> which
> > app goes where, etc)
> > If you rush out a announcement that might soon be obsolete and even more
> > confusing, so I think it's better to take the time to get it right. It's
> > certainly not done with "three lines".
> >
> Sven, I think it is still more pleasant to see the announcement "Our
> team have decided to postpone the RC release. Please, hold on - we
> will provide you with details in couple of weeks". That is it.
>
> Noone expects from anyone any obligations. But it feels way better if
> we communicate to people that we remember about them waiting for the
> release, that we care about the dates stated in KOffice wiki.
>
> It is the same as call a person to warn that You might be late - the
> person may get somehow sad but you will still be trusted. If You do
> not show up at the meeting which was previously scheduled and did not
> call to warn about that - that leaves You with no trust from that
> person.
>
The dates in the KOffice wiki are not official and can change. In case there
are still release blockers more betas are scheduled, the RC date is pushed
back. It would be a bit strange if we announce several times that the
release might be pushed back.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andrij Zinchenko <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com">andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 2010/10/28 Sven Langkamp <<a \
href="mailto:sven.langkamp@gmail.com">sven.langkamp@gmail.com</a>>:<br> \
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Andrij \
Zinchenko<br> > <<a \
href="mailto:andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com">andrez.the.slacker@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br> >><br>
>> OK, I understand many things. I may concede that there is a need for a<br>
>> "clean break". But you can not any longer try to keep it secret \
from<br> >> community without seriously hurting it. Develop a message for \
the<br> >> community and show the clear way of keeping with it! If you need \
such<br> >> a message, I can help with that - I am PR guy anyway.<br>
><br>
> We are not keeping it secret as this is a public mailinglist anyway. It<br>
> still needs some days until the terms of the split are decided (names, which<br>
> app goes where, etc)<br>
> If you rush out a announcement that might soon be obsolete and even more<br>
> confusing, so I think it's better to take the time to get it right. \
It's<br> > certainly not done with "three lines".<br>
><br>
</div></div>Sven, I think it is still more pleasant to see the announcement \
"Our<br> team have decided to postpone the RC release. Please, hold on - we<br>
will provide you with details in couple of weeks". That is it.<br>
<br>
Noone expects from anyone any obligations. But it feels way better if<br>
we communicate to people that we remember about them waiting for the<br>
release, that we care about the dates stated in KOffice wiki.<br>
<br>
It is the same as call a person to warn that You might be late - the<br>
person may get somehow sad but you will still be trusted. If You do<br>
not show up at the meeting which was previously scheduled and did not<br>
call to warn about that - that leaves You with no trust from that<br>
person.<br></blockquote></div><br>The dates in the KOffice wiki are not official and \
can change. In case there are still release blockers more betas are scheduled, the RC \
date is pushed back. It would be a bit strange if we announce several times that the \
release might be pushed back.<br>
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