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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: KOffice 2.2, usability and the Q4 sprint
From:       Inge Wallin <inge () lysator ! liu ! se>
Date:       2009-09-02 8:38:53
Message-ID: 200909021038.53555.inge () lysator ! liu ! se
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On Wednesday 02 September 2009 09:55:44 Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
> Hello,
>
> > An end user who tries out KOffice and finds it cumbersome to use will not
> > be back soon.
>
> An end user who tries out KOffice and finds it cumbersome to use may
> or may not keep on using it, or even be back any time soon.
>
> An end user who tries out KOffice and finds it does not render text,
> tables, etc as they were created, finds that it does not support
> certain features, etc for sure will not be back in a long time. For
> instance, is it possible to get text displayed in vertical yet? (I
> fail to find that formatting option in KWord). 

While you are certainly correct, that is not what we are discussing.  The 
discussion is whether:

 a) there is room for both an API review and a user interface discussion at 
the sprint, and
 b) if not, which of them is more important to discuss at the sprint.

Nobody has said that features and correctness are unimportant.  If I read Jos 
argument correctly, he means that good underlying API is important for 
correctness and I agree with that.  However, if they are more important to 
discuss in depth at the sprint than user interface that would mean that they 
are bad now and in great need of fast improvement.  I don't think that's the 
case, but I'm open for arguments.

>I find features more
> important than UI.
>
> IMHO: a nice UI without working (not broken) features is void. A
> working set of features with a not-so-good UI is, well, what users are
> already used to :-)

Except that there are hardly any users of KOffice.  Naturally, the biggest 
reason for that is that KOffice 2.0 is not ready at all due to lack of 
features and indeed correctness, so we can't really draw any conclusions from 
that.

> Talking about users, another important feature KOffice is missing is
> documentation: the handbooks are very outdated (most of them are from
> the KOffice 1.6 era, some of them even from 1.5!)

That is also true.  However, we won't discuss that because everybody is 
already agreeing. :-)  The only thing lacking here is manpower to write them.

	-Inge

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