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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: KOfficeSource and KOffice
From:       Sebastian Sauer <mail () dipe ! org>
Date:       2008-01-14 11:34:55
Message-ID: 200801141234.55487.mail () dipe ! org
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C. Boemann wrote:

>> So, *IN YOUR PERSONAL OPINION*:
>>
>> * Should the KDE e.V be allowed to sublicense the KOffice trademark to
>> anybody to use? Under which general conditions?
> No I don'tthink they should. Rather I think they should protect the name
> from anybody using it.

yeah, but on the other hand...
 
>> * Should KOfficeSource GmbH in particular be allowed to use the
>> wordmark "KOffice" in their (our) name?  Under which particular
>> conditions (ownership, board, actions, etc)?
> I don't much like your use of KOffice in combination with Source. To me it
> sounds like you claim the ownership of the sourcecode. I know you don't
> but I still think the name implies that, so I really have issues with that
> name.
> 
> I think it is ok that you associate yourself with the KOffice name, saying
> that you are KOffice developers etc, but more than that I seriously don't
> like.

the avantage about using the KOffice name is that the name even spreads out 
more. The whole issue looks for me very similar to the @kde.org 
mail-addresses thing. On the one hand it's good since that way the work done 
by individuals is direct connected with the project and recognized as such. 
On the other hand it's bad since actions done by individuals may transport a 
message that maybe isn't in the best interest of the project (I just remember 
webkit here).
Guess that was one of the reasons @kdemail got introduced since it does try to 
find a solution by still having the kde-name (PR++) while still beeing 
different enough to outline that this is something on it's own and not an 
official part (as in official representatives) of the project.
Taken this into account I guess it would be wise if a company would be also 
allowed to use the KOffice-name as long as it's clear, that the company isn't 
an official representer but does decide on it's own.

So, all in all, I guess Boemann has a valid point since "KOfficeSource" really 
sounds as beeing "the KOffice source" aka "where KOffice comes from". 
Somewhat unfair taken into account that there are also other ppl within the 
project and even other companies (openoffice.com.pl comes here to my mind 
though there name is even more wired but was maybe choosen before StarOffice 
got renamed to sound more community-based + Mandriva and KDAB who did also 
provide us code+support). Though as far as I understood it, the main business 
KoSource provides is about KOffice what makes it even more logical to have 
the KOffice name in there + a rename would maybe harm the company cause the 
news are out already :-/
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