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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: Status and Agenda for the ODF Weekend
From:       Dag Andersen <danders () get2net ! dk>
Date:       2007-04-02 7:41:26
Message-ID: 200704020941.26531.danders () get2net ! dk
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Hi,
Yeahh, not much interest has been  *shown* from the kplato quarters, but I 
would have loved to have a standard odf format. I'm afraid it takes a *lot* ( 
I mean a *lot*) of legwork to make a useful proposal. (Some even thinks it's 
impossible). I'm allready running like mad to get kplato into a useful state, 
so I absolutely have no chance at all to also look at standardizing the file 
format :(
I have sort of hoped somebody would step forward and do that work. There is 
quite a lot of interest in *having* a standard, but so far noone has 
volunteered to actually do anything about it.

Fredag 30 marts 2007 11:07 skrev Inge Wallin:
> Hi everybody,
>
> The ODF Weekend is shaping up fine.  We have at this time 16 confirmed
> participants, which is the at the limit of what the KDAB office space
> holds, according to Mirko. One person *cough*isaac*cough* still hasn't told
> me wether he'll be there or not, but I hope to get that soon.
>
> Recapitulation
> The KOffice ODF hack weekend will take place sat-sun May 12th-13th in the
> KDAB offices in Berlin.
>
> The participants are:
>
> Name		Representing (mainly)
> -------------------------------------------------
> Maintainers:
> David Faure	KoLibs
> Thomas Zander	KWord
> Ariya Hidayat	KSpread
> Thorsten Zachman	KPresenter, Kivio
> Jan Hambrecht	Karbon
> Boudewijn Rempt	Krita
> Inge Wallin	KChart, organizer
> Alfredo Beaumont	KFormula
>
> Nobody from KPlato nor Kugar has shown any interest, but then, they don't
> have an ODF format to code for.  Nevertheless, if anybody would be
> interested in representing these components, I'm sure we can find work for
> them too, even if the space is running low.
>
> Other developers:
> Martin Pfeiffer	KFormula
> Sebastian Sauer	Kross
> Philip Rodriques	Documentation, testing
> Anne-Marie Mahfouf	Website, testing, documentation
> Tobias Koenig	Okular
> Aaron Seigo	Kdelibs
>
> Other people:
> Claire Lotion	Organizer
> Jos Poortlivet	Press coverage
>
> As you can see, we have a very strong showing! We are especially excited to
> have Tobias Koenig from Okular and Aaron Seigo representing kdelibs with
> us. The reason for that is that they wanted to discuss how we can design
> our ODF support to let other applications in KDE use it. Eventually, we
> might be able to offer ODF support for all of KDE with a module like the
> current kdepimlibs. This will definitely not go into KDE 4.0, (except for
> Okular?), but perhaps for 4.1 and beyond.
>
> Now to the proposed agenda. David Faure has been nice enough to offer a
> tutorial of ODF at large and of the support classes within the Koffice
> libraries. He expects the tutorial to take around 1 hour, but we expect the
> session to be longer, since it's bound to generate discussion about design,
> present and future.
>
> My view is that this is will be the defining meeting for ODF in KOffice
> *and* KDE for a very long future. Nevertheless, we should try to get as
> much hacking and actual implementation done as possible.
>
> Most people (in fact everybody, as it looks now) will arrive on friday, but
> I don't know at what time. Therefore I propose an early start on saturday.
> The weekend is not long and we have a lot to accomplish.
>
> Proposed agenda:
> Saturday 09:00	Welcome	, important facts		Claire and Inge
> 	09:30	Tutorial: ODF in KOffice		David Faure
> 	10:30	pause
> 	10:45	Q&A, discussions			Led by David
> 	12:00	Lunch
> 	13:00	Hacking begins, with lots of spontaneous meetings
> 	18-ish	Dinner
>
> Sunday	early	Hacking and spontaneous meetings
> 	afternoon	People start packing and leave when they have to.
>
> One thing we could discuss, and that I want people's input on is this:
> Should we start the formal agenda with the tutorial already on friday? For
> this to work, people have to arrive on friday already before noon. Please,
> everybody send a mail to clairelotion@kde.nl with your arrival and
> departure times so we can see how it stands. Also please state your views
> on this issue.
>
> Equipment
>
> I expect everybody to bring a laptop with a suitable build environment and
> operating system. :-) KDAB has been kind enough to offer us the loan of
> their laptops that they use for customer training. These are dual core
> machines with a gigabyte of RAM, so will perform as nice compile nodes in
> an icecream cluster. If anybody prefers to use them instead of his/her own
> laptop they will also be available for that (right, Mirko?). The only
> drawback is that they will perhaps not be available until saturday.
>
> Sebastian Sauer, who lives in Berlin, has offered to set up and prepare the
> network equipment before we arrive. Thanks, dipesh!
>
> More details about lodging and other administrivia will be sent out by
> Claire soon.  You can email me about technical and agenda stuff and her
> about organizational stuff.
>
> Well met!
>
> 	-Inge and Claire

-- 
Mvh
Dag Andersen
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