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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: KOffice 1.4.1 Accessibility Assessment
From:       Jarosław_Staniek <js () iidea ! pl>
Date:       2005-10-15 22:00:26
Message-ID: 200510160000.26649.js () iidea ! pl
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Gary, thanks for your valuable explanation.
> On Friday 14 October 2005 08:59 am, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote:>> Re Kexi \
> a11y analysis:>>>> I shouldn't be surptised you run Kexi 0.8, but notice \
> that Kexi has two>> branches: bundled with KOffice and unbundled (it \
> appears this strategy>> has manydisadvantages). First I would propose to \
> run Kexi from SVN or at>> least 0.9, instead of ~one year old Kexi 0.8.1. \
> I noticed a few issues>> could have already been fixed in Kexi 1.0-pre.> \
> > KOffice 1.4.1 was the latest "stable" release at the time I began \
> > doing> the> evaluation. 

This is 0.8.
Latest Kexi stable release is 0.9, outside of KOffice. Future releases will \
most probably be counted and packaged outside of KOffice. Before that, \
maybe.. try 0.9. 
> It will be some time before latest release makes it into > distros.  If \
> there are identified issues that have since been fixed, we> can note that \
> in the report.> >>>> - "The Choose Project dialog is larger than the \
> screen.">>>> Is this 800x600 screen? Tu run apps with such complicated \
> GUIs when large>> fonts are set, may need using larger resolutions and \
> larger displays,>> right?> > As mentioned in the Overview in the \
> beginning, 1024x768.  Higher> resolution without a larger physical \
> monitor screen just makes everything> smaller again,> which defeats the \
> purpose of the larger font sizes of the theme.  I have> mixed feelings \
> about most of the "widget is cutoff" or "dialog is too> large"> items I \
> reported.  At the large font size of the tested theme, its pretty> \
> challenging to get everything to fit on the screen; probably simply not> \
> achievable for many of the dialogs.  It could be argued that a \
> low-sighted> user should have a LARGE monitor (say minimum 21 inches), \
> and I'd have to> agree that is a reasonable expectation.  That said, \
> there seem to be some> layout problems in some of the dialogs; problems \
> that I'm guessing are in> the Qt layout engine, but I haven't been able \
> to get a firm understanding> of the> problem or what is wrong.  For \
> example, on my system, even with the> default settings and theme, the \
> File Open/Save dialog consistently sizes> itself wider> than my screen, \
> and I can see no good reason for this.  It might have> something to do \
> with me running multiple versions of KDE apps under the> same X server, i \
> dunno.
There may be a bug with layout settings indeed, because of "embedding \
open/save dialog within a dialog" trick. 
> > I was thinking about expanding on the whole issue of screen resolution \
> > in> the Conclusions sections, stating for example, that low-sighted \
> > users> should acquire the largest monitor screen they can.> >>>> - "The \
> > buttons above the Project Navigator panel (left-hand panel of the>> \
> > main screen) are too small.">>>> These are toolbar buttons with \
> > friendly text labels. Are these smaller>> than toolbar buttons on your \
> > computer?> > My screen matches your screenshot here:> > \
> > http://www.kexi-project.org/wiki/wikiview/index.php?Accessibility> > \
> > The point of the item is that the Project Navigator buttons are \
> > smaller> than> the main toolbar buttons.  Its a judgement call if that \
> > is a problem for> low-sighted users.  Given that it does seem to be \
> > adjusting their size> according to the theme, I can be be pursuaded to \
> > remove the item from the> report.>>>> - "The text of the Property \
> > Editor is way too small making it difficult>> to read." - "The “Row” \
> > and “of” labels on the Data View and Query View>> toolbars are too \
> > small.">>>> I tested this and you're right. All similar bugs will be \
> > squashed.> > :)> >>>> - "The background color of the SQL Query Text box \
> > in the Text View has a>> dark blue background with black text when it \
> > does not have focus, making>> it almost invisible.">>>> We need to \
> > report/fix this within Kate Part's default settings.> > Its my plan to \
> > collect all the kdelibs accessibility problems I can> identify and \
> > report them all together to kde-core-devel mailing list,> rather than \
> > filing individual bugs, or is that a bad approach?
Good idea; you can add the bug re "not working right arrow key in menu"; or \
Martin Ellis reported this in kde bugzilla? >>>> - "The Help menu item on \
the main menu is obscured by the view buttons.">>>> Screenshot please?> > \
Attached.  Notice the four buttons in the upper righthand corner that are> \
on top of the "Help" menu item.>  Thx;KMDI library bug, but as it will be \
dropped completely, I guess we can treat the bug as "resolved in upcoming \
                versions".
-- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek / OpenOffice Polska Kexi \
Developer:     http://www.kexi-project.org | http://koffice.org/kexi KDE3, \
KDE4 libraries for developing MS Windows applications:     \
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