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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: Bug 76757 : modification of style manager
From:       p.stirnweiss_koffice () bluewin ! ch
Date:       2004-07-25 8:50:07
Message-ID: 40F7A9ED00035215 () mssbzhb-int ! msg ! bluewin ! ch
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>From: Nicolas Goutte <nicolasg@snafu.de>
>To: For developer's discussion about KOffice <koffice-devel@mail.kde.org>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:36:52 +0200
>Subject: Re: Bug 76757 : modification of style manager
>Reply-To: For developer's discussion about KOffice <koffice-devel@mail.kde.org>
>
>
>On Saturday 24 July 2004 19:07, p.stirnweiss_koffice@bluewin.ch wrote:
>> Hi, I am starting to have a look at this one.
>> I would like to change some stuff in the way the style manager is
>> organised. Let me know your opinions on these ideas (I personaly find
them
>> more logical, but it may not look the same to everybody):
>
>The problem of splitting dialogs is that it is only good if it is not done
>
>only in the stylist but also in each of the individual dialogs. (Especially
>
>for the points 2 and 3 below.)
>
>>
>> 1. Move the Font/Position group to Font effect tab. The Font effect tab
>may
>> be renamed (perhaps to Font : Avanced).
>> This had the effect of reducing the height of the dialog. It is still
a
>tad
>> big (in 800x600) but at least the buttons OK/APPLY/CANCEL are reachable
>> now). This is the only thing I have tried to implement yet.
>
>Perhaps split the "font effect" tab in two, while moving the "Font/Position"
>
>group.



I will give it a thought. On one hand, I would be for the following :
 - "Font" sub tab with just the font selection
 - "Font enphasing" (this is for the lack of a better term) with underlying,
striketrough and maybe capitalisation.
 - "Font position" would then be on its own but that would give the space
to go for radio buttons with "none".
 - "Font decoration" with colors and shadows.

On the other hand the color property is often wanted and would be nice if
available on the first tab.



>
>>
>> 2. Create a "Paragraph flow" tab (better name welcome) that would group
>:
>> General/Next style (perhaps renamed to Style of next paragraph), Font/Font
>> Effect/Language and Hyphenation.
>
>No!
>
>General/Next style is at layout level (layout == paragraph formating)
>
>But font effect, language and hypenation are charcter properties.



I did not want to move font effect, just the langage and hyphenation (I
was indicating the path, but I see now that it was not very clear) and the
next style.

I agree that langages are not always used at the whole paragraph and can
be used at a word level. However, I don't agree it is a character property.
The minimum item you will give a langage property is a word and most of
the time it is set for paragraphs. In order to set it for an individual
word we might need to add a langage sub-menu in the format menu.
I would definitly not expect to find the langage setting in Fonts.

For me hyphenation is even more belonging to paragraphs. You do not hyphenate
a single character. Setting the hyphenation property just for a word works
but is not very logical in a word processing environment (the slightest
change in margins or in the text prior to that word might make it begining
of a new line while the previous word would have to be hyphenated.

This was my reasoning behind the paragraph flow tab (which would be at the
same level as indent...). This tab could also be added in the individual
paragraph setting dialog.

As for "next style", I agree with you. It belongs to the style, not the
paragraph (as in individually settable).



>
>>
>> 3. Move the General/Include in TOC to Bullet and numbering.
>
>Again no, as it cannot be done so in the individual dialogs. (That is a

>property of the style, not of the layout.)



I agree.



>
>>
>> 4. Make the General/Preview text longer so it flows on a new line and
shows
>> the line spacing, paragraph margins...
>
>Yes, that could be interesting!



I guess I will need to be creative then.



>
>>
>> Let me know what you think of this.
>
>Have a nice day!
>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
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