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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: kpresenter GUI cleanup (2)
From:       Laurent Montel <lmontel () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2002-05-19 6:30:01
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Le Saturday 18 May 2002 14:38, Thomas Zander a écrit :
> Lots of good work has been done, thanx Percy!
> Here is another set of suggestions on fixing usability problems in
> kpresenter
>
> The properties dialog uses the buttons 'ok','reset','apply','close'
> Looking at the rest of KDE the only place where a reset is used is in
> kcontrol where it has a special purpose (being in a framework etc)
> After pressing reset a couple of times when I was aiming for ok I am pretty
> sure a better solution would be to use the 'ok','apply','cancel' default
> dialog if at all passible.
> The reset functionality would then be replaced by the cancel button.

No cancel button close windows it's not a good idea.
We must re-open dialogbox.

>
> The tab 'Pen' is referenced in other software (mostly drawing software) as
> Outline or Stroke.  Could someone with PowerPoint take a look at their
> naming? I don't think 'Pen' covers the meaning of the idea.
>
> On the same tab 'Pen' the combo boxes for arrows (line begin/end) don't do
> anything when the line is closed (text/box/circle etc).
> I would suggest putting the two combo boxes in a groupbox:
>   +-Line ends: --------+
>
>   | begin:  V | Normal |
>   | end:    V | Normal |
>
>   +--------------------+
> and disabling the whole groupbox when these are not appropriate.
>
> Tab 'Pen'
> Section 'Width';  the spinbox could probably do with the units of the
> line-width. Is it pixels, points?

points for the moment. It's right we must change it to use unit.

>
> Tab 'Brush'
> s/Fill with/Fill Type/
> s/No brush/No Background Fill/   (as used in KWord)
> When the users selects 'No brush' disable the preview so the background
> color shows through. (As done in KWord in the frame properties dialog)

No problem.

>
> The tab 'General' should always be the first tab in the dialog.
>
> The tabs 'Geometry' and 'General' both use the '&g' as their shortcut
>
> The tab 'Geometry' has a groupbox at the bottom; please put a spacer
> beneath that so the groupbox only takes the space it should take, makes it
> clearer etc.
>
> Tab 'Rectangle'
> s/Settings/Rounding/
> s/Roundedness X/Vertical declination/
> s/Roundedness Y/Horizontal declination/
> The spinboxes could use a ' %' suffix
> Why don't the spinboxes allow 100?

I don't know ...

> A spacer would be nice beneath the settings box (now renamed to Rounding)
> so it only takes the space needed.
>
> Tab 'Pie'
> The 'Settings' groupbox is not needed. It can be deleted.
> the spinboxes could use the degrees (°  0xb0) char.

Ok

>
> Tab 'Poligon'
> The 'Settings' groupbox is not needed. It can be deleted.
>
>
> ---
>
> At selecting a closed object the line-begin/line-end toolbar items
> should be disabled.

it's right!

>
> The 'Brush color' toolbar icon should be disabled when no object is
> selected. The 'Color' toolbar icon (just left of the Brush color) should be
> named 'Text Color'. (a clearer 'disabled' icon would also be nice)
>
> In the presentation toolbar is a 'pen color' button; I can't find what it
> does, but I don't think it belongs on a toolbar!  It should be put in the
> 'configure pages' dialog if its some sort of wat to draw on your sheets
> while they are playing.  That way you can also provide a little text on how
> to use it.
>
> The edit->delete should as for confirmation with a dialog (probably with a
> don't ask again checkbox)
>
> Menu screen presentations
>  - the name of the menu should probably be 'Screen Presentation' (no s)
>  - configure pages should probably be 'Configure presentation'
>  - pen Width should probaby be 'Pen Size'
>  - Open presentation Structure editor' should be 'Structure editor...'
>
> ---
>
> The 'assign effects' dialog
> Please use 2 tabs for this dialog, one called '&Show' and one called
> '&Remove' The 'order of appearence'
>     +- Appear --------------+
>
>     |   1 st.   [make last] |
>
>     +-----------------------+
> A groupbox called 'Appear', with a spinbox which has a minimum of 1 and a
> suffix ' st.'. The groupbox also has a button 'make last' which calculates
> the highest value currently used and puts that, plus one, in the spinbox.
>
> s/Effect (appearing)/Appear/
> s/Effect (object specific)/Effect/
> The 'Timer of the object' should _not_ be disabled when the presentation is
> set to manually advance.  They are in a different level of configurability
> and should not interfere with each other.
>
> Why is it impossible to put a sound effect on objects, is it only possible
> on one object per sheet?  

I don't know, I don't add this code so I don't know...

>Then the sound effect is per slide; and I would
> suggest adding another tab to this dialog called 'slide sound effects' with
> a 'start' and an 'end' checkbox.
>
>
> ---
> The duplicate object dialog (edit->duplicate object) has labels and text
> boxes one below each other.
> It would look a lot better if the text boxes were right of the labels.

No problem

> The text boxes could probably all be converted to spinboxes and have better
> boundraries checking. Things like moving the object in milimeters is nice
> but if the user has no idea how big his canvas is a maximum value is nice
> to have.  The maximum does not have to be a hard maximum. Just do it like
> the number of copies at the top, where the maximum is done in a slider but
> you can still type in the spinbox:
>
>     Rotation:   [0.0 °]    0 [|     ] 360
>
> In this dialog a reset buttons seems quite stupid, please remove it.

It's right.

>
>
> Ok, thats enough for this time!  Hope you like it :)


Ok I will try to make all this changes today.
thanks
Regards.
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