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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: fonts
From:       Thomas Zander <zander () planescape ! com>
Date:       2001-11-19 20:55:59
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:04:23PM +0100, Nicolas Goutte wrote:
> On Monday, 19. November 2001 09:08, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:36:09PM +0100, Nicolas Goutte wrote:
> > > Very interesting but it seems different from my KWord display problem (I
> > > am not talking about the -1 font size problem.)
> > >
> > > I have already had the idea that the problem was more in QT, as it
> > > was QT snapshot 2001-10-06 that had brought half acceptable results.
> > >
> > > I have just tried to comment out the :unscaled in my XF86Config.
> > > Everything remains the same. Descent are partially "eaten", some spaces
> > > have zero width.
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > Personally, I would like that bitmap fonts would work.
> >
> > Why? They can never be printed, they look bad on screen and cause confusion
> > on the side of the user...
> 
> Good, I am not a specialist for printing.
> 
> However, the user will still be confused when he learns that he cannot use 
> Helvetica, Times, Utopia, Symbol, all the different Lucida...
> 
> And how will KFormula work if you cannot use Symbol?

I am not saying to disallow, I am asking why we bother with bitmapped fonts if
you can never print that formula.
 
> I was not happy at the time of QT3 beta6 when of the 43 fonts usable by XFree 
> only 9 displayed something in KWord. Would a normal user be more happy? I 
> doubt...

Then find some more fonts, I have over 100 printable font-families (and some
9000 fonts alltogether) on my machine.

> As for printing problems, they also exists in KOffice 1.1, but the display 
> problems they are new. And when a new user tests a program, he will not print 
> at first.

Well, the display problems have to do with the fact that KWord now actually 
does the same on screen as it did before in print.
But that is not the point; my point is not about that I can't debug it.  It is 
about the fact that it is theoretically _impossible_ to print a font that is 
only available for screen display.

A simple matter which can not be changed, we can only substitute another font
for printing. But if you use KWord as your HTML editor you could not care less...

-- 
Thomas Zander                                            zander@earthling.net
The only thing worse than failure is the fear of trying something new

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