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List:       koffice
Subject:    Re: users book about KOffice
From:       Raphael Langerhorst <raphael-langerhorst () gmx ! at>
Date:       2004-01-30 10:43:50
Message-ID: 200401301140.00775.raphael-langerhorst () gmx ! at
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On Thursday 29 January 2004 18:49, Eugene Nine wrote:
> Eugene Nine
>
> I thought somewhere back in one of the early post someone was volunteering
> :).  I thought koffice 2 or whatever the next version is going to be was
> going to be soon from all the talk I was seeing so I didn't understand how
> a book could get published in time and was volunteering to help out on a
> book for the next release.  Since the next release is far enough out that a
> book on it will be possible I can volunteer to help on on that.  But after
> seeing my communication skills you may not wich to take me up on that offer
> :)

I think it's great if you volunteer to help out. Since KOffice consists of 
many parts it should also be easy to distribute work between more authors.

A general structure of the book might be:

* introduction
	* what is KOffice
		* what does it have to offer (features,...)
		  / what can be done with KOffice
		  / KOffice and OOo interoperability
		  / areas of deployment
		  / What's about this 'K'?
	* what is KDE
	* what is OSS
	* how to install
		* prerequisites (kdelibs)
		* KOffice on Linux
			* rpm/deb package from Linux distributors
			* from source
		* KOffice on MAC OS X
		* KOffice on Windows (Cygwin(possible?))

* A short introduction to KDE
	* the panel
	* starting KOffice
	* ... ?

* KOffice overview
	* all that's common in all parts including general look&feel

* Wordprocessing with KWord
* Spreadsheets with KSpread
* Presentations with KPresenter
* Flowcharts and Diagrams with Kivio
* Business class reports with Kugar
* Database management with Kexi
* Drawings with Karbon and Krita
	* difference between vector graphics and pixmap(?) graphics
* Utilities KFormula, KChart
* ... ?
* KOffice and other office suites (including interoperability)
	* file format
	* OOo
	* Abiword
	* Gnumeric
	* MS Office
	* Hancom Office
	* older versions of KOffice

* other everyday KDE applications:
	* Kontact
	(* Konqueror)

* future developments

* KDE and KOffice in the internet

* ??


Any suggestions on this general book-structure?

Anyone wants to work on one of these chapters?

You think a book with this structure is interesting for users?

My mother tongue is German. What do you think of a translation to English/
German?

The book will of course cover the next major release of KOffice - the one with 
OOo file formats - either 1.4 or 2.0.


I think if the book is well designed (content and look/layout) it will be a 
great support for people wanting to use KOffice - or trying to find out which 
office suite suites them best.


greetings,
Raphael

>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Raphael Langerhorst <raphael-langerhorst@gmx.at>
> Reply-To: For discussion about KOffice <koffice@mail.kde.org>
> Date:  Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:33:38 +0100
>
> >comments inline...
> >
> >On Thursday 29 January 2004 14:56, Eugene Nine wrote:
> >> So it sounds like a Koffice 2.0 is much further away than I thought. 
> >> Which is god timing for someone who wishes to write a book, they can
> >> start on 1.3 and follow the changes/additions and just make the book
> >> match.
> >
> >That's quite the reason why I started the thread (in addition to the file
> >format change to OOo which should be finished with the next major release
> > ... IMHO).
> >
> >Is anyone volunteering for writing a book?
> >
> >> I was worried about using koffice a while back sine I had heard about
> >> the format changing with 2.0 until I found the command line
> >> import/convert tool so I felt safe that I could simply convert
> >> everything over at one point with that tool.
> >
> >Yes, KOffice 2.0 is surely some distance off. To my knowledge it is not
> > even decided what the next version number will be.
> >
> >> I assume the templates will follow the OO standard as well, one
> >> thing I can't do easily in Kword at the moment is use a templae for an
> >> Avery label.  I have to run open office for that.  Any chance there will
> >> be command like file viewers/editors (I'm drifting way off the topic of
> >> the thread here so if someone wants to know why I'll start a new thread
> >> and explain).
> >
> >I think if you are missing some functionality then you should surely start
> >either a new thread for it or file in a wish item in the bug tracking
> > system.
> >
> >> Eugene Nine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> From: David Faure <faure@kde.org>
> >> Reply-To: For discussion about KOffice <koffice@mail.kde.org>
> >> Date:  Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:13:09 +0100
> >>
> >> >On Thursday 29 January 2004 14:32, Eugene Nine wrote:
> >> >> I was looking at the koffice site and the developer.kde.org and I
> >> >> can't find anything on koffice 2.0?
> >> >
> >> >We have only just started the changes post 1.3.
> >> >The roadmap is yet to be decided upon, the only clear thing is the work
> >> > on the OOo file format.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >David Faure, faure@kde.org, sponsored by Trolltech to work on KDE,
> >> >[...]
> >>
> >> [...]
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