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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: posting to mailing list from Kmail difficult
From:       Don Sanders <don () sanders ! org>
Date:       2001-04-09 13:49:06
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Section 6 of RFC822 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html) defines the syntax 
for valid email addresses. Appendix A.1.1 lists 
  Alfred Neuman <Neuman@BBN-TENEXA>
as an example of a valid address*. Please note that this address has 
"missing" double quotes. I think at least in this case KMail is fully 
compliant with RFC822.

I also notice that, like KMail, "Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4" and "Mozilla 3.02 
(X11; N; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686)" allow messages to be posted with "missing" 
double quotes around the name.

Speaking of mailman (at least version 2.0beta4) it is good software, but I 
wonder if it actually violates RFC822 itself. Sending administration messages 
with no date field,  which I believe is a required field (please see the 
formal grammar in section 4.1 of RFC822). Instead only a "Resent-Date" field 
is specified.

I believe Michael knows RFC822 better than myself, maybe he can confirm/deny 
these points.

*If the message crosses name-domain boundaries then the domain hierarchy 
needs to be fully specified eg. 
  Alfred Neuman <Neuman@BBN-TENEXA.NET>

BFN,
Don.

On Monday 09 April 2001 05:09, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 07:01:40PM -0700, David E.Fox wrote:
> > Marc basically has said that the From: isn't RFC-822 compliant (which
> > would seem strange for Kmail if true) and that mailman may have trouble
> > because of the username / GECOS (?) contents/formatting (i.e., "David E.
> > Fox"). Mailman is looking at the envelope From: rather than the address
> > From: and maybe that is causing problems.
>
> Err, no, not quite.
> The problem is simply that kmail sends mails like this:
> (exerpt of /var/log/exim/rejectlog on some other mailserver I admin)
>
>   From: David Faure <david@mandrakesoft.com>
>   Organization: MandrakeSoft
>   To: koffice@max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de, <christine.anwar@itworx.com>
>   Subject: Re: help
>   Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:26:06 +0100
>   X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2.1]
>
> The From header is invalid, it's missing the double quotes around the name.
> I believe that this is what is confusing mailman.
>
> > I am hesitant to post to the bug list because I am not sure it's a kmail
> > bug.
>
> The From header without quotes that I see  from Kmail from time to time is
> a bug.
> For that matter,  valinux.com and sourceforge.net refuse all  mail from
> MUAs with that bug because the From header fails the RFC 822 sanity check.
>
> Marc
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