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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: Blue scary screen
From:       Tom Albers <tomalbers () kde ! nl>
Date:       2005-12-15 22:25:02
Message-ID: 200512152325.03415.tomalbers () kde ! nl
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Op donderdag 15 december 2005 23:03, schreef Ingo Klöcker:
> On Thursday 15 December 2005 18:29, Tom Albers wrote:
> > Op donderdag 15 december 2005 00:32, schreef u:
> > > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 23:52, Tom Albers wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure how this has improved usability in any way, but
> > > > discussing that will not be very productive.
> > >
> > > If (seemingly) nothing happens after the user selected a folder
> > > he'll wonder whether he did something wrong. The progress screen
> > > shows the user that KMail is doing something. Whether a 1 second
> > > timeout is too short or not is of course debatable.
> >
> > What I do not understand is why there are four ways to tell the user
> > what is going on:
> > 1) status bar
> > 2) progress bar in the status bar
> > 3) the progress bar in the popup as shown when forwarding a message
> > which is not completely retrieved yet
> > 4) the blue scary screen
> >
> > One of the objections is that 'we' are now learning the user not to
> > look at 1) or 2) when something takes longer then expected. I hope it
> > does not set an example for everything that lasts a bit longer.
>
> If the usability people think it makes sense then who am I to argue with
> them? 

You are a user as well.

> Anyway, I think it would probably be better to show the "blue 
> scary screen" only instead of the folder list and leave the message
> preview pane empty.
>
> > > > I'ld like to know if
> > > > attached patch is acceptable. If not, I'll close the br and start
> > > > to compile kmail manually with a similar patch, because I really
> > > > would like to use KMail again.
> > >
> > > Sorry, but a 10 second timeout is not acceptable. If you want to
> > > invest a little bit more time on this then you can make the timeout
> > > configurable
> >
> > Thanks for the hints, attached is the patch based on that. Do I need
> > to take care of trunk or can someone forward port it? Can I document
> > the hidden setting somewhere (wasnt there a wiki page for that)?
>
> Looks good, but I think you should add this option to the General group
> instead of the Internal group. The Internal group is only meant for
> settings no user should ever change.

Ok, moved and committed.

> I suppose you have tested that it 
> works as expected.

Testing took the most time, as I had to build kdepim for it and I had to read 
the KConfigXT manual, but that was on my list anyhow.

> I'll port it to trunk.

Ok. Thanks for helping to find a solution. I'm a happy user again. 

Toma

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