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List:       kmail-devel
Subject:    Re: kdenetwork/kmail
From:       Ingo =?iso-8859-15?q?Kl=F6cker?= <ingo.kloecker () epost ! de>
Date:       2002-04-30 12:22:26
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David Bishop wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 11:43:03PM -0400, Zack Rusin wrote:
>> I like Ingo's proposition a lot, is anyone against it? Please speak
>> up now, and not after I commit a fix. Options are: a) revert it,
>> removing the dialog, b) implementing the popup the way Ingo
>> suggested.
> 
> Well, if you are bent on doing it Ingo's way, at least reverse it. 
> The windows and mac method (using their respective fm's) is that a
> normal LMB-drag results in whatever makes sense (move within the same
> fs, copy across fs's) while a ctrl-LMB-drag popup's up the dialogue
> (copy/move/etc).  While I'm not here to argue which way is "better",
> at least we would be consistent.

That's exactly the argument I waited for. Here's what I have to say 
about this:
The don't-show-a-popup method is what causes people trouble. Therefore 
we shouldn't copy it. Most normal users don't know anything about 
ctrl-LMB-drag. They only use LMB-drag. And because there is no popup in 
this case it happens that those users unintentionally move files (or 
emails) to other folders without noticing. (I already wrote this 
earlier.) This isn't just an academic argument, it really happens. It 
happened to my uncle with the Windows Explorer (he moved an important 
file somewhere else and I had to find it and move it back) and it 
happened to my mum with the Netscape Messenger (again I had to help 
out). A popup menu would have most likely prevented those unintentional 
dnd operations.

In your last sentence you say "we would be consistent [with windows and 
mac]". I think being consistent with the rest of KDE is slightly more 
important. Don't you think?

Last but not least, I'd like to note that I also hate the popup because 
it interrupts my work flow. Therefore I came up with the best solution 
_I_ could think of.

Regards,
Ingo

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