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List:       kfm-devel
Subject:    Re: view management trouble ;)
From:       David Faure <faure () kde ! org>
Date:       1999-12-12 17:36:52
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What you say makes a lot of sense, but don't you 
think it's going to be confusing to have two similar buttons
on the view frame, one for passive mode and one for closing ?

On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 09:26:06AM -0600, Mosfet wrote:
> All I want is if I open a new view I want to close it with a single
> click. The current scheme of having to use menus is inconvenient at
> best. The most obvious way to handle this is a close button on the
> frame. Doing this does not make it MDI, it doesn't change the philosophy
> of how frames are handled at all. It just makes Konqi much more
> convenient to use. The other option would be a toolbar button to close
> the current frame, but even that isn't as convenient as a button inside
> the frame bar which also wouldn't waste valuable screen or toolbar real
> estate. Not doing something that is the right thing to do just because
> it looks like something unpopular (even tho it has absolutely nothing to
> do with MDI!) is not nice.   
> 
> As far as 2) is concerned, it is not a good general solution. It does
> nothing to make it easier for people to close views that are manually
> added - only helps the dirtree view. The close button is a general
> solution. Not that 2 shouldn't be implemented, but 2 does not solve the
> fact that if I add a new view to browse screenshots with the kview view
> I have to go back to the menus to close it, etc... 
> 
> David Faure wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 02:11:21AM +0100, Simon Hausmann wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm a bit in trouble with the view management in konqy :)
> > >
> > > Actually I'm wondering about two problems:
> > >
> > > 1) We will want to provide an easy&fast way to remove passive views.
> > >    (the current way isn't, at least not for views which are forced to be
> > >     passive)
> > That's right...
> > 
> > >    The easiest approach coming to my mind is a small sort of close button
> > >    in the view frame. This however conflicts with the idea not to make the
> > >    splitter stuff in konqueror look like MDI .
> > >    I'm clueless :-)
> > Well it's still not exactly MDI (which would mean moving sub-windows around).
> > The problem is that the current checkbox and the close button would
> > look very much alike...
> > 
> > Anyway since the passive view that is the most often used is
> > the directory tree, your point 2) solves it for the most common case, no ?
> > 
> > > 2) We decided to have a menu item like "Show/Hide Directory Tree", in
> > >    order to provide a fast&easy way to make use of the dirtree (as the way
> > >    via Window->Load View Profile, etc. isn't that good) .
> > >    While it's quite easy to implement "Show Directory Tree" (like split
> > >    window and let the view on the left be a dirtree view), I'm clueless
> > >    about what the behaviour of "Hide Directory Tree" should be.
> > Hehe :-)
> > 
> > >    Should it be like:
> > >     a) Whatever views are available, remove the left/topmost dirtree.
> > >    or
> > >     b) get rid of all dirtree views (although I doubt that there will be
> > >        user having more than one dirtree ;-)
> > >    or
> > >     c) you_name_it :)
> > 
> > The most clever way would be that the option is available only if there is
> > a dirtree, and it would remove it.
> > 
> > There can't be two, AFAICS... because "Show Directory Tree" is not available
> > when it's already shown, right ?
> > Since there is only one config for the dirtree, there's not really any
> > point in showing two anyway.
> > 
> > --
> > David FAURE
> > david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
> > http://home.clara.net/faure/
> > KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
> 
> -- 
> Daniel M. Duley - Unix developer & sys admin.
> mosfet@mandrakesoft.com
> mosfet@kde.org
> mosfet@jorsm.com
> 

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David FAURE
david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://home.clara.net/faure/
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