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Subject: Re: [KDE Usability] Users cannot find where to "safely remove" USB
From: Markus <kamikazow () web ! de>
Date: 2010-04-04 22:10:16
Message-ID: 201004050010.16807.kamikazow () web ! de
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Am Sonntag 04 April 2010 23:25:43 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> Thank you for the personal attack, I am sure that it will help keep
> the discussion friendly and productive.
So your constant "I know everything better attitude and if you don't agree
with me, you have no clue" attitude is "friendly and productive"??
> > Many millions of Mac OS X and iTunes users are already accustomed to it
> > as well.
>
> I know exactly one Mac user.
iTunes is also available on Windows. Many million users already use this.
Your "all knowing argument" against an Eject icon in Dolphin's Places panel is
deliberately excluding all those people.
> Yeah, right, what? Are you expressing your opinion that my assessment
> of users needing a more intuitive interface is flawed?
Context menus are not more intuitive. They work bad on touchpads on which
people usually only tap. They don't work at all on tablet PCs.
Every single somewhat mainstream GUI uses Eject buttons.
Windows:
http://www.mvoyager.com/assets/images/online-help/compact-disc-in-windows-
explorer-vista.png
Mac OS X: http://macsolvers.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cannot_click2eject.gif
iTunes for Mac and Windows:
http://reviews.cnet.com/i/bto/20090910/HT1853_Eject_iPod_610x428.png
GNOME: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/images/gnome-bug-115763-1.jpg
Only Dolphin doesn't have it. So the solution is simple: The Eject icon should
be added to Dolphin and Device Notifier's Eject icon should be always visible
instead only when the mouse hovered. Then Dolphin and Device Notifier will be
consistent between each other and the rest of the world.
Adding stupid context menus is neither approachable nor intuitive.
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">So your constant "I know everything better attitude and if \
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margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">with me, \
you have no clue" attitude is "friendly and productive"??</p> <p \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > Many millions of \
Mac OS X and iTunes users are already accustomed to it</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > as well.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> I know exactly one Mac user.</p> <p \
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style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">iTunes is also available on \
Windows. Many million users already use this.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Your "all knowing argument" against an \
Eject icon in Dolphin's Places panel is </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">deliberately excluding all those people.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Yeah, right, what? Are \
you expressing your opinion that my assessment</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> of users needing a more intuitive interface \
is flawed?</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Context menus are not more intuitive. They work bad on touchpads \
on which </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">people \
usually only tap. They don't work at all on tablet PCs.</p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p \
style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Every single somewhat \
mainstream GUI uses Eject buttons.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Windows:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><a \
href="http://www.mvoyager.com/assets/images/online-help/compact-disc-in-windows-explorer-vista.png"><span \
style=" text-decoration: underline; \
color:#0057ae;">http://www.mvoyager.com/assets/images/online-help/compact-disc-in-windows-explorer-vista.png</span></a> \
</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Mac OS X: <a \
href="http://macsolvers.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cannot_click2eject.gif"><span \
style=" text-decoration: underline; \
color:#0057ae;">http://macsolvers.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cannot_click2eject.gif</span></a> \
</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">iTunes for Mac and Windows:</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a \
href="http://reviews.cnet.com/i/bto/20090910/HT1853_Eject_iPod_610x428.png"><span \
style=" text-decoration: underline; \
color:#0057ae;">http://reviews.cnet.com/i/bto/20090910/HT1853_Eject_iPod_610x428.png</span></a> \
</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">GNOME: <a \
href="http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/images/gnome-bug-115763-1.jpg"><span style=" \
text-decoration: underline; \
color:#0057ae;">http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/images/gnome-bug-115763-1.jpg</span></a> \
</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Only Dolphin doesn't have it. So the solution is simple: The Eject \
icon should be added to Dolphin and Device Notifier's Eject icon should be always \
visible instead only when the mouse hovered. Then Dolphin and Device Notifier will be \
consistent between each other and the rest of the world.</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Adding stupid context menus \
is neither approachable nor intuitive.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p></body></html>
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