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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: [KDE Usability] Oxygen animations configuration
From:       Hugo Pereira Da Costa <hugo () oxygen-icons ! org>
Date:       2009-11-30 23:47:10
Message-ID: 4B14597E.70606 () oxygen-icons ! org
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On 11/30/2009 04:43 PM, Onur - Hayri Bakici wrote:
> Hey Guys!
> 
> I have also the oppinion, that simply on/off is to radical trimming of the option. \
> I have a suggestion that is actually working with all users (not just developers \
> like us ;) ): An simple and advanced mode. The other options can be hidden under \
> the advanced mode settings. 
> what do you guys think?
> 
Only issue with that IMO is that style configuration is _already_ sort 
of advanced mode. So that it would be advanced-advanced :)
(for a long time I actually ignored totally this tiny "configure" button 
next to the style selection combobox, which leads to this cluttered dialog)
> greetz
> 
> Am Dienstag 01 Dezember 2009 00:19:52 schrieb Hugo Pereira Da Costa:
> 
> > Hi Leo,
> > 
> > Unfortunately I agree with all your points.
> > 
> > Now: the first option is the one and only you ask for. (it is "turn all
> > on" or "all off").
> > 
> > The other seven options ... I added them while adding new animations.
> > There is "some sort" of reasoning between them: tab transition for
> > instance, is the only one that can possibly trigger repaints of large
> > portions of the screen. All others are very local.
> > 
> > I won't try to motivate each of the options. I left it this way because
> > of lack of time and poor usability skills (lack of time being: coding
> > furiously, changing things often, and always postponing the moment where
> > I should ask usability guys for help. My bad.).
> > 
> > I think On/Off is too drastic (due to the limitation above): glows and
> > fade-in/fade-out, (the first four options) are harmless. Progressbars also.
> > 
> > Tabs: this can really make your system feel less responsible.
> > 
> > Labels: the thing is that it is quite a "sensible" animation, and might
> > actually still be buggy (it is hard to test all applications on the
> > market and people do scary things with labels).
> > 
> > So questions:
> > Could there be suggestions for something in-between the single-option,
> > and the current state ?
> > Is it too late to have this fixed for kde4.4 ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Just read the update on 4.4 on polishlinux.  Looks cool, but one thing
> > > I need to mention:
> > > 
> > > http://www.santyago.pl/data/santyago/images/kde44-1055000-animated-oxygen.jpg
> > > 
> > > The Oxygen animations configuration dialog is completely insane.  8
> > > options and a dedicated tab for animation?
> > > What exactly is the use-case for people to configure animations on 8
> > > different GUI elements separately?
> > > Animations support in the default theme deserves exactly one option.  On or \
> > > Off. If one particular animation is offensive to lots of people then it
> > > needs to be reworked.  Offering an option to disable them individually
> > > is not a solution, and this kind of thing is the reason that people
> > > get the impression KDE is complicated.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Leo
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