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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Add F11 as full screen shortcut
From:       Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins () wp ! pl>
Date:       2009-06-02 11:48:32
Message-ID: 200906021348.32338.bluedzins () wp ! pl
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On Tuesday 02 June 2009 13:34:53 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:50 PM, John Tapsell <johnflux@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > 2009/6/2 Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins@wp.pl>:
> >> On Tuesday 02 June 2009 07:56:25 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> >>> Either way, I think it should be a KWin thing, not something
> >>> for individual applications. Consistency anyone?
> >>
> >> I 110% agree.
> >
> > How will apps hide toolbars etc then when switching to full
> > screen mode?
>
> What do you mean?
> In my experience most apps handle this perfectly well - there is no
> difference between full-screen mode 'forced' by KWin or their
> native full-screen mode. If that was what you were wondering ;-)

Now you puzzled me :-) I think there should be distinction between 
fullscreen (just fullscreen) and the presentation mode (what you name 
native fullscreen).

Fullscreen should only maximize window (and notify app that its window 
is maximized *), remove borders and remove titlebar.

Presentation mode is like fullscreen but with additional extras coming 
from specific app -- removing toolbar, panes, and so on.

In this sense every app "has" fullscreen mode, but not every app has 
presentation mode. The difference is for that reason that 
presentation mode is useful (kpdf for example) but I don't want to 
use it every time, sometimes (for me: in all cases) fullscreen is 
just right.

(*) this is important to adjust all scrollbars which are placed near 
the edge of the window

Cheers,
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