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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KDE4 and KRDC4 usability
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-11-23 10:47:45
Message-ID: 200811231147.46071.jospoortvliet () gmail ! com
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On Sunday 23 November 2008 01:49:00 Robert Knight wrote:
> > These things have been/will be fixed in KDE 4.2, which is the first
> > KDE 4 release targeting the 'common user'. Blame your distribution for
> > shipping 4.1.x by default, and breaking stuff by backporting things
> > from the 4.2 branch.
>
> Jos, that is ridiculous.  What else are distributors of
> up-to-date-but-not-bleeding-edge distributions supposed to ship?
> We're not supporting KDE 3.5 any more and 4.2 was still very much in
> unstable development when they were rolling packages.  Most
> distributions are doing the best they can with the difficult choices
> which they were presented with.

I agree choices are difficult right now - and there is the pressure on 
distributions  to ship the latest & greatest, of course. But unless you have 
the resources Suse has, shipping KDE 4.1 as default instead of 3.5.10 WILL get 
you in trouble. Let alone shipping pre-beta stuff like amarok 2.0 and (heaven 
forbid!) KOffice 2.0 right now. I really believe the distribtions like Kubuntu 
and Mandriva should've shipped 3.5.10+ one more time. But it's their call.

>
> Regards,
> Robert.
>


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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On Sunday 23 November 2008 01:49:00 Robert \
Knight wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; These things have been/will be fixed in KDE 4.2, which is \
the first<br> &gt; &gt; KDE 4 release targeting the 'common user'. Blame your \
distribution for<br> &gt; &gt; shipping 4.1.x by default, and breaking stuff by \
backporting things<br> &gt; &gt; from the 4.2 branch.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jos, that is ridiculous.  What else are distributors of<br>
&gt; up-to-date-but-not-bleeding-edge distributions supposed to ship?<br>
&gt; We're not supporting KDE 3.5 any more and 4.2 was still very much in<br>
&gt; unstable development when they were rolling packages.  Most<br>
&gt; distributions are doing the best they can with the difficult choices<br>
&gt; which they were presented with.<br>
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pressure on distributions  to ship the latest &amp; greatest, of course. But unless \
you have the resources Suse has, shipping KDE 4.1 as default instead of 3.5.10 WILL \
get you in trouble. Let alone shipping pre-beta stuff like amarok 2.0 and (heaven \
forbid!) KOffice 2.0 right now. I really believe the distribtions like Kubuntu and \
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&gt; Robert.<br>
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