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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Localised folders in /home/user (Documents and > Desktop)
From:       Kåre_Särs <kare.sars () kolumbus ! fi>
Date:       2006-11-28 7:51:11
Message-ID: 200611280951.12458.kare.sars () kolumbus ! fi
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On Tuesday 28 November 2006 08:01, David Roberts wrote:
> > Am Montag, 27. November 2006 19:05 schrieb Uno Engborg:
> > > > I agree, I don't see any real problem with the current system. Most
> > > > "normal users" don't even look at the location bar, so I don't even
> > > > see why it's an issue.
> > >
> > > You miss the point. Of course it isn't a problem mounting it at /mendia
> > > or whatever other place. As you say yourself, most users would probably
> > > not even look at the location bar.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the user can use the GUI to navigate to /media or
> > > even / by pressing the up arrow. (Should still be possible when showing
> > > hidden files). By being able to browse to media you lose the one to one
> > > relationship between whats on your physical USB stick and how it is
> > > displayed in the GUI.
> >
> > There's a brand new invention called "the back button".
>
> Exactly, if a user goes somewhere unfamiliar, they can always use the back
> button. Perhaps this is just me, but the "normal" users I know don't even
> use the up button - they just use the back button to get to the previous
> directory. Even if they did use it, I don't know what they'd be hoping to
> acheive by going up a level from the root of a device - of course if you do
> something stupid like that you're bound to end up not knowing where you
> are, it's not the file manager's fault, just hit back.

I think Uno Engborg is after a mode where the "moron/normal user" wouldn't be 
able to browse outside his own directories and removable media and that this 
mode could be disabled by the "geek" users. This mode feels strange to me as 
I quite often browse outside these directories. This doesn't mean that it 
couldn't be usable for somebody. However I do not feel that hiding 
information is the right approach. 

I do not agree with the "Unix file system is hard to understand" assumptions. 
The same hierarchy exists in OSX, Windows and most other operating systems. 

One problem with not allowing the user to browse outside a removable media and 
home directory is that he might have a harder time understanding the file 
system hierarchy. I think that we have to represent the data in a way that 
the users (also computer illiterates) understand what they see.

With that said I do not think it is hard to understand that the removable 
media show up under /media/ as well as showing up ass a shortcut icon on the 
desktop.

/Kåre

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