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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Printers and Scanners module for KDE4
From:       Iñaki <ibc2 () euskalnet ! net>
Date:       2006-11-07 19:04:20
Message-ID: 200611072004.20918.ibc2 () euskalnet ! net
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El Martes, 7 de Noviembre de 2006 02:04, Aaron J. Seigo escribió:

>  - "Remove the Printer menu because its unnecesary and dupplicated, so
> confused."
>
> quite true. however, there's nothing in the mockup that says "if you click
> on this printer you'll get options". it's also quite non-standard to click
> on something and have a context menu show. perhaps it could be made much
> more obvious with an actual "Actions" button or something that visually
> says "click here for a menu". there's no reason the printers have to be the
> usual hum-drum icons.

Could you explain more what you mean with "actual Actions button"? where is 
that button or where should it be?

Anyway, why not something like the proposal in Appeal?
  http://appeal.kde.org/wiki/Content_Manager#Mockup



>  - "Put the share printer in the context menu of each printer."
>
> makes sense. unless one wants to share -all- their printers? doing it one
> by one is onerous.

And what about the posibility of choosing many printers like in file managing 
and press "Share printer" in the shared context menu?


>  - Hide the Print Manager in an "Advanced" menu.
>
> that's probably fine, though i don't see it in the mockup?

Yeah, I didn't put it. It's because I'm not sure about how it should appear or 
if it really should appear.


>  - "Remove so many options about the view, orientation and toolbars. In
> fact, remove the View menu and include it just as context menu of the empty
> space in the printers list."
>
> .. making it quite hard to find. what's wrong with putting that in the
> Advanced menu as well? would bring it up to 4 items (5 if one includes
> scanners here) plus a sub menu for View.

Ok.


>  - "Clean the printer specific context menu by removing the general options
> and including the advanced ones into a Properties option."
>
> yes, the general view options should probably go... but a list of which
> should stay is probably good. i see in the mockup that Test Printer is no
> longer in this menu, though that's not uncommon to use at all.

True, I forgot to make visible the "Test printer" option.


> the entries that i'd suggest keeping are:
>
> Enable/Disable Printer (you're right about Start/Stop imho)
> Set as default ->
> 	For $USERNAME
> 	For all users on this computer
> Configure Printer
> Print Test Page
---
> Advanced ->
> 	Export Driver
> 	IPP Report
> 	----
> 	<printer tools>
Share printer
> ---
> Remove Printer
>
> slightly more entries, but keeps the utility more intact.

I have added "Share printer". Should it appear there?


Thanks a lot for your opinion and suggestions. I'll try to improve the mockup 
with them next week.

Regards.


-- 
Iñaki Baz Castillo
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